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House Hansard - 266

44th Parl. 1st Sess.
December 12, 2023 10:00AM
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Mr. James Bezan
  • Dec/12/23 11:27:16 a.m.
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Madam Speaker, I rise on a point of order. I believe the Standing Orders say we are not allowed to reflect on a vote that has been taken in this House, and the parliamentary secretary is doing that. Also, the parliamentary secretary consistently rises in this place and extols very toxic rhetoric. We have the Minister of Trade sitting right here. Should she not be addressing this instead of the parliamentary secretary?
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Context: House Hansard - 266 - Dec/12/23
The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Alexandra Mendès)
  • Dec/12/23 11:30:03 a.m.
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The hon. member was told that is not allowed by the Standing Orders. The hon. member for Mission—Matsqui—Fraser Canyon.
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Mr. Brad Vis
  • Dec/12/23 11:30:13 a.m.
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Madam Speaker, on that point of order, not only do I take great offence to the fact that he referred to the Conservative Party as far right, but I would also note that according to the Standing Orders, that is not the subject of the debate at hand today.
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Context: House Hansard - 266 - Dec/12/23
The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Alexandra Mendès)
  • Dec/12/23 11:34:01 a.m.
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While the hon. parliamentary secretary may be right in terms of traditions, I have to refer to the Standing Orders as they stand. The hon. member for Selkirk—Interlake—Eastman rose on a point of order, and there is a standing order reflecting that we cannot refer to votes, so I have to apply it. I ask the hon. parliamentary secretary to retract. The hon. parliamentary secretary.
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Mr. Kevin Lamoureux
  • Dec/12/23 11:34:21 a.m.
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Madam Speaker, I suspect that if we were to go through the Standing Orders today, we would find a number of Standing Orders that are somewhat redundant and do not necessarily have value. I would suggest this is one of those Standing Orders, and I would ask—
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Context: House Hansard - 266 - Dec/12/23
The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Alexandra Mendès)
  • Dec/12/23 11:34:37 a.m.
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I would agree with the hon. member, but it is not up to me. I am not the one to change Standing Orders as we go. We have a process for that. The hon. member for Kingston and the Islands.
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Context: House Hansard - 266 - Dec/12/23
The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Alexandra Mendès)
  • Dec/12/23 11:35:55 a.m.
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I think the hon. member was trying to see if tradition overrides the Standing Orders, if I understand correctly the point the hon. parliamentary secretary was making.
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Context: House Hansard - 266 - Dec/12/23
Mr. Brad Vis (Mission—Matsqui—Fraser Canyon, CPC)
  • Dec/12/23 11:36:55 a.m.
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Madam Speaker, Standing Order 11(b) says, “In the event of a member disregarding an order of the Chair made pursuant to paragraph (a) of this section, the Speaker shall order the removal of the member.” Not only did the member for Winnipeg North disregard your order, but he then went on to state that the Standing Orders were not relevant. The Standing Orders under the Parliament of Canada Act are the rules by which we govern democracy in Canada. They are relevant.
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Context: House Hansard - 266 - Dec/12/23
The Speaker
  • Dec/12/23 3:30:40 p.m.
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I declare the motion carried. I wish to inform the House that because of the deferred recorded division, Government Orders will be extended by 12 minutes.
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