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44th Parl. 1st Sess.
December 12, 2023 10:00AM
  • Dec/12/23 11:42:44 a.m.
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Madam Speaker, on a point of order, it goes without saying that Canada is a sovereign nation. For a member to suggest that we are influenced by certain— Ms. Jennifer O'Connell: Debate. Mr. Brad Vis: No. Madam Speaker, when the member brings into question whether Canada is being influenced by a foreign government on certain policies—
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  • Dec/12/23 1:17:23 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, I would like to thank my colleague, who did travel with me. He also defended his region’s interests quite vigorously in meetings we had with U.S. elected officials. This being said, it is the prerogative of all sovereign states to sell or donate weapons. Of course, there are ways of doing so, and this is regulated by conventions. However, it is the prerogative of a state to support one of the parties in a conflict. Still, should this be included in an agreement that is intended to remain in effect for many years? That is where I have a problem. In the interest of transparency, I want to say something. Although I was radically opposed to every amendment proposed by the Conservatives, I agreed that they should have been ruled in order for debate. I find it sad to have an agreement thrust upon us and not be able to change it later.
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  • Dec/12/23 1:18:20 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, I would like to thank my colleague, the member for Saint-Hyacinthe—Bagot, for his speech. I would also like to thank him for his support at committee during the discussions on the investor-state dispute mechanism question. I would like to give him some more time to expand on that. He mentioned that the ISDS gives corporations the status of sovereign nations. It puts them above Canadian corporations here in Canada. It brings up the possibility that Ukraine would be on the hook for huge settlements if one of these disputes was made against Ukraine by a Canadian company. I am wondering if the member could comment on that and comment on why the world is moving away from ISDS agreements while Canada seems stuck in that lane.
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