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House Hansard - 266

44th Parl. 1st Sess.
December 12, 2023 10:00AM
Context: House Hansard - 266 - Dec/12/23
Mr. Brad Vis
  • Dec/12/23 11:31:15 a.m.
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Madam Speaker, we all know that Liberal Party members do not like to participate in debate. They defer to the member for Winnipeg North to do their dirty work—
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Context: House Hansard - 266 - Dec/12/23
Mr. James Bezan
  • Dec/12/23 11:32:16 a.m.
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Madam Speaker, my point of order was on Standing Order 18, which you definitely ruled on. I have still not heard the member for Winnipeg North retract his inflammatory statements.
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Context: House Hansard - 266 - Dec/12/23
Mr. Larry Maguire
  • Dec/12/23 11:35:50 a.m.
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Madam Speaker, the member across the way for Winnipeg North has challenged the Speaker's ruling.
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Context: House Hansard - 266 - Dec/12/23
Mr. Brad Vis (Mission—Matsqui—Fraser Canyon, CPC)
  • Dec/12/23 11:36:55 a.m.
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Madam Speaker, Standing Order 11(b) says, “In the event of a member disregarding an order of the Chair made pursuant to paragraph (a) of this section, the Speaker shall order the removal of the member.” Not only did the member for Winnipeg North disregard your order, but he then went on to state that the Standing Orders were not relevant. The Standing Orders under the Parliament of Canada Act are the rules by which we govern democracy in Canada. They are relevant.
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Context: House Hansard - 266 - Dec/12/23
Mr. Kevin Lamoureux
  • Dec/12/23 11:44:21 a.m.
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Madam Speaker, they are a little sensitive on the other side. At the end of the day, they should take responsibility for their behaviour. The Conservatives, on one hand, want to take certain actions, but when they get called out on it, they get a little sensitive. They say they do not want the member from Winnipeg North to be talking about this, and they do not want the member from Winnipeg North to be talking about that. They are trying to censor what I say. This is the first time in 30 years I have heard people say we cannot tell people how we voted. I have news for them, despite their trying to prevent me from talking about how they voted inside in the chamber. They may have limited success inside the chamber, but I am going to let people know about the behaviour of members of the Conservative Party of Canada and how they are being influenced by the MAGA movement from the United States coming into Canada. It is very serious stuff. They are not going to stop me from talking about that issue. It is shameful the way members of the Conservative Party today are playing a destructive force, not only on the floor of the House of Commons in preventing legislation from passing, but also in their behaviour, which other people as well as myself have witnessed, in limiting the types of things that can actually be said. Members can think about it. They do not want me, from the floor of the House of Commons, telling Canadians how they voted on legislation because they are embarrassed. I am not talking about any specific piece of legislation. I am talking about the principle of my being able to tell Canadians through this platform how they behave inside this chamber. They will not allow me to say that the Conservative Party voted x on any piece of legislation or any motion. That is what they do not want me to say—
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Context: House Hansard - 266 - Dec/12/23
Mr. Brad Vis
  • Dec/12/23 11:56:04 a.m.
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Madam Speaker, I continue to rise on points of order because the language we are hearing from the member from Winnipeg is contrary to Standing Order 18. It is implying that the Conservative Party of Canada is breaking laws related to treason in Canada. As a member of Parliament, I find that offensive to assume that we are influenced by a foreign government—
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Context: House Hansard - 266 - Dec/12/23
Mr. Alain Therrien (La Prairie, BQ)
  • Dec/12/23 12:08:51 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, I would like to comment on the remarks made by the member for Winnipeg North, who referred to the nature of the Conservatives' vote on one of the aspects of the many votes that were held in the House on Friday. He simply mentioned the Conservatives' vote. The Conservatives mentioned Standing Order 18, which says that no member may—
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Context: House Hansard - 266 - Dec/12/23
Mr. Kevin Lamoureux
  • Dec/12/23 7:04:23 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, I would like the member to consider coming out to Winnipeg North to explain why the Conservative Party is trying to say that, by getting rid of the price on pollution, life would become more affordable. In reality, that that is misinformation; it is not true. Eighty per cent of the constituents that I represent, or more, would actually have less disposable income if the leader of the Conservative Party prevails, ignores the environment and gets rid of the price on pollution. The hon. member talked about one or two cases, and I am sympathetic to them, but I am talking about tens of thousands of residents whom I represent. With the Conservative policy that the member is advocating, those residents would ultimately see their net disposable income go down.
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