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Ali Ehsassi

44th Parl. 1st Sess.
November 21, 2022
  • 03:33:57 p.m.
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Welcome to meeting number 38 of the Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Development. Today's meeting is taking place in a hybrid format, pursuant to the House order of June 23, 2022. Members are attending in person in the room as well as remotely using the Zoom application. I'd like to make a few comments for the benefit of the witnesses and members. Please wait until I recognize you by name before speaking. For those participating by video conference, click on the microphone icon to activate your mike, and please mute yourself when you are not speaking. Interpretation for those on Zoom is at the bottom of your screen, and you have a choice of floor, English or French. For those in the room, you can use an earpiece and select the desired channel. As a reminder, all comments should be addressed through the chair.
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  • 03:34:58 p.m.
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In accordance with our routine motion, I am informing the committee that all witnesses have completed the required connection tests in advance of the meeting. Pursuant to the order of reference of Wednesday, June 1, 2022, the committee resumes consideration of Bill S-211, an act to enact the fighting against forced labour and child labour in supply chains act and—
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  • 03:35:31 p.m.
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Yes, you can, Ms. McPherson.
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  • 03:36:00 p.m.
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Yes. The reason why the notice did not go out is that, first of all, I think the calendar had been sent out to the members previously, so everyone was aware that that was occurring. However, insofar as the notice was concerned, the clerk was good enough to send it to me on Friday by email, but I did not see it until Sunday night. I am entirely responsible for the delay in sending out the notice. As for the witnesses, I had no say as to which witnesses were selected.
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  • 03:36:49 p.m.
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For sure. I'll ask the clerk to kindly clarify.
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  • 03:37:15 p.m.
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Thank you so much.
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  • 03:37:18 p.m.
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Yes, Mr. Genuis.
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  • 03:38:42 p.m.
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As you're well aware, and as was explained to you, Mr. Genuis, the clerk did change that last Monday, and that was out of a concern to make sure that the committee's time is being used efficiently, because as you know there are many issues the members would like to consider. Yes, that did change, and Bill S-223 is now scheduled for Wednesday.
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  • 03:40:04 p.m.
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That's fair enough. The clerk is pointing out that the chair does have the power to move it around to make sure that we proceed in the most expeditious fashion and to make sure that all those issues that are being considered are considered. That said, we will go to Ms. Bendayan.
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  • 03:41:12 p.m.
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For sure. My apologies to the witnesses. Can we proceed with the witnesses?
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  • 03:41:26 p.m.
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No. We've moved it around just to make it more efficient.
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  • 03:41:36 p.m.
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How is that a problem, Mr. Genuis?
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  • 03:41:41 p.m.
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Yes, but a chair can also make sure that we move along apace to make sure that all those issues that are of concern to the members are actually dealt with.
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  • 03:42:00 p.m.
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Thank you, Mr. Genuis. Yes, Mr. Bergeron.
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  • 03:43:39 p.m.
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Thank you, Mr. Bergeron. We'll certainly consider that. If we could now go back to our study—
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  • 03:43:55 p.m.
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Yes, Mr. Zuberi.
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  • 03:44:28 p.m.
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Thank you, Mr. Zuberi. I think that in the terminology Mr. Bergeron used, he said it was to add to the legitimacy of the process. I wasn't bringing up anything new. This was something that all members of the committee had agreed to consider, and I simply moved around an hour, but going forward perhaps that would be a better approach. Now, if we could go back to the study at hand, allow me to say that concerning the drafting of amendments, I'd like to remind all the members to contact Alexandra Schorah, the legislative counsel, should there be any amendments of the draft. All that having been said, it is now my pleasure to welcome our witnesses today. We have with us Mr. Martin Dumas, a lawyer and a professor of industrial relations at Université Laval; Mr. Matt Friedman from The Mekong Club, who acts and serves as chief executive officer; Mr. Stephen Brown, from the National Council of Canadian Muslims, who serves as chief executive officer, with Ms. Fatema Abdalla, the advocacy officer; and finally, from the Shareholder Association for Research and Education, we're happy to have Mr. Kevin Thomas, who serves as chief executive officer. Each of our four witnesses will be provided five minutes for their opening remarks, after which we will open the floor to questions by the members. Mr. Dumas, you have five minutes. Once you are down to 30 seconds, before you hit that target, I will put up a paper to guide you so you have a sense that you should be wrapping it up soon. Thank you, Mr. Dumas. Please do proceed.
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  • 03:52:26 p.m.
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Thank you very much, Mr. Dumas. You will have more time during the question period to conclude any remarks you may have. Now we go to Mr. Friedman. The floor is yours. You have five minutes for your opening remarks.
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  • 03:58:19 p.m.
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Thank you very much, Mr. Friedman. We go to Mr. Brown. You have the floor for five minutes.
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Thank you very much, Mr. Brown. We now go to our last witness for this first panel, and that is Mr. Kevin Thomas. Mr. Thomas, you have five minutes for your opening remarks.
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