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House Hansard - 266

44th Parl. 1st Sess.
December 12, 2023 10:00AM
Context: House Hansard - 266 - Dec/12/23
The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Alexandra Mendès)
  • Dec/12/23 10:11:34 a.m.
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The hon. member's point is well taken. Please do not refer to other members. As the hon. member knows, it is not admissible. The hon. member for Prince George—Peace River—Northern Rockies.
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Mr. Bob Zimmer
  • Dec/12/23 10:11:48 a.m.
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Madam Speaker, I think the point being made is that they have tried to get their local member of Parliament to do this and they will not do it— Some hon. members: Oh, oh!
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Alexandra Mendès)
  • Dec/12/23 10:12:01 a.m.
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I have already told the hon. member that is not permissible and the hon. member should not refer to the person, and should apologize for making that reference.
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Mr. Mark Gerretsen
  • Dec/12/23 10:12:21 a.m.
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Madam Speaker, I rise on the same point of order. Please forgive the Conservatives. They are about to make a very important decision on a vote. That is why they are on edge. You have asked him to apologize. He has not apologized and his own members are telling him— Some hon. members: Oh, oh!
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Mr. Bob Zimmer
  • Dec/12/23 10:12:46 a.m.
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Madam Speaker, I guess if it is in the rules of the House of Commons then I will apologize, but I certainly will not apologize for speaking on behalf of residents of Skeena—Bulkley Valley. I will speak to the petition but they are trying to interrupt— Some hon. members: Oh, oh!
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Alexandra Mendès)
  • Dec/12/23 10:13:02 a.m.
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All the hon. member has to do is to speak to the petition and not refer to anything else.
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Ms. Jenny Kwan
  • Dec/12/23 10:13:18 a.m.
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Madam Speaker, I rise on a point of order. I am asking for the member, through you, to retract those comments. It is not following the rules— An hon. member: He already did. Ms. Jenny Kwan: No, he did not. Madam Speaker, he apologized but I am asking for him to retract those comments.
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Alexandra Mendès)
  • Dec/12/23 10:13:35 a.m.
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We will allow the member to go straight to the petition. If not, we will move to someone else. The hon. member for Prince George—Peace River—Northern Rockies.
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Mr. Bob Zimmer
  • Dec/12/23 10:13:57 a.m.
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Madam Speaker, I will get to the petition finally. We, the undersigned citizens and residents of Canada draw the attention of the House of Commons to the following: Whereas the Trudeau government has attempted to ban and seize the— An hon. member: You cannot say the Prime Minister's name.
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Alexandra Mendès)
  • Dec/12/23 10:14:22 a.m.
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The hon. member knows that, even if the petition says it, he cannot mention names of current members of the House.
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Mr. Bob Zimmer
  • Dec/12/23 10:14:39 a.m.
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Mr. Speaker, one more time. The Prime Minister— Some hon. members: Oh, oh! Mr. Bob Zimmer: Can I actually get this done? The truth hurts, I guess.
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Alexandra Mendès)
  • Dec/12/23 10:14:51 a.m.
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The hon. member for Prince George—Peace River—Northern Rockies has the floor and I will allow him to present the petition without mention of names.
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Mr. Bob Zimmer
  • Dec/12/23 10:14:59 a.m.
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Madam Speaker, we, the undersigned citizens and residents of Canada draw the attention of the House of Commons to the following petition—
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Mr. Kevin Lamoureux
  • Dec/12/23 10:15:11 a.m.
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Madam Speaker, on a point of order, the member should also know he is not allowed to read the petition. He is supposed to give the essence of the petition.
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Mr. Larry Maguire
  • Dec/12/23 10:15:30 a.m.
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Madam Speaker, I am sure if everyone would just calm down, my colleague from Prince George would get to the intent of the petition.
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Alexandra Mendès)
  • Dec/12/23 10:15:36 a.m.
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That is exactly what I just said, that the hon. member will get to the essence.
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Mr. Corey Tochor
  • Dec/12/23 10:15:43 a.m.
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Madam Speaker, on a point of order, the government is challenging your ruling. You have asked the member to read the petition. He is reading the petition—
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Alexandra Mendès)
  • Dec/12/23 10:15:52 a.m.
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I asked for the essence of the petition, as is the rule for everyone. The hon. member for Prince George, please.
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Mr. Bob Zimmer
  • Dec/12/23 10:15:58 a.m.
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Madam Speaker, we, the undersigned citizens and residents of Canada draw the attention of the House of Commons to the following: Whereas the Prime Minister's government has attempted to ban—
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Alexandra Mendès)
  • Dec/12/23 10:16:09 a.m.
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Read the essence of the petition, as is the rule. Members cannot read all the articles because they will read the whole petition.
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