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House Hansard - 266

44th Parl. 1st Sess.
December 12, 2023 10:00AM
Context: House Hansard - 266 - Dec/12/23
Mr. Corey Tochor (Saskatoon—University, CPC)
  • Dec/12/23 10:05:14 a.m.
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Mr. Speaker, the Conservative Party disagrees with the recommendations in this report. We do not support unfunded spending. We agree that graduate students and post-doctorate fellows play an important role within our universities and they are disproportionately affected by the carbon tax, runaway inflation, the doubling of rent and the doubling of mortgages. We all know that if the government brings forward new, unfunded spending, it is just future deficits for future generations to pay back, so we disagree with the recommendations found in this report.
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Mr. John Williamson (New Brunswick Southwest, CPC)
  • Dec/12/23 10:06:02 a.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I have the honour to present, in both official languages, the 35th report of the Standing Committee on Public Accounts, entitled “Specific COVID-19 Benefits”. There are also three dissenting reports to this committee report. We will hear from the official opposition on one of those in a moment. Pursuant to Standing Order 109, the committee requests that the government table a comprehensive response to this report.
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Mr. Kelly McCauley (Edmonton West, CPC)
  • Dec/12/23 10:06:37 a.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I rise to present the Conservative Party's dissenting report. It cost $32 billion for political interference by this government when it ignored CRA recommendations on prepayment controls for the Canada emergency wage subsidy and the CERB and instead based the $100-billion-plus program on the flimsiest prepayment controls. The head of the CRA testified in committee that the Liberal cabinet overrode recommendations by the CRA on setting up more stringent prepayment controls and instead forced the department to dole out taxpayers' dollars based on a mere self-attestation despite, as the Auditor General stated, knowing full well this would lead to very large eligibility problems. Despite the Auditor General's Office stating that $32 billion in questionable payments was hugely understated, the Government of Canada, Employment and Social Development Canada, and the CRA still questioned the feasibility and economics of pursuing ineligible claims. Thus, in order to correct this gross negligence from the Liberal government, the Conservative Party members submit four recommendations. Recommendation one is that former minister of national revenue and current Minister of Fisheries and Oceans apologize to the Auditor General of Canada for her politically motivated attacks on the Auditor General's integrity. Recommendation two is that the CRA immediately implement the Auditor General of Canada's methodology that calculated levels of ineligibility for the COVID benefit wage subsidy. Recommendation three is that the CRA and Employment and Social Development Canada accept the findings of the Auditor General in their entirety and perform immediate and extensive post-payment verifications to identify payments made to ineligible recipients. Recommendation four is that the CRA and Employment and Social Development Canada end their post-payment verification delays and work immediately to retrieve all ineligible COVID financial aid.
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Mr. Taleeb Noormohamed (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Canadian Heritage, Lib.)
  • Dec/12/23 10:08:55 a.m.
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Madam Speaker, I have the honour to present, in both official languages, the eighth report of the Standing Committee of Canadian Heritage entitled “Job Cuts Announced at CBC/Radio-Canada”.
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Hon. Bardish Chagger (Waterloo, Lib.)
  • Dec/12/23 10:09:24 a.m.
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Madam Speaker, I have the honour to present, in both official languages, the 54th report of the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs. Pursuant to its mandate under Standing Order 111.1, the committee has examined the proposed appointment of Mr. Eric Janse to the position of Clerk of the House of Commons. The committee recommends that the House ratify the appointment of Mr. Eric Janse to the position of Clerk of the House of Commons, and I would like to send my congratulations.
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Mr. Bob Zimmer (Prince George—Peace River—Northern Rockies, CPC)
  • Dec/12/23 10:10:39 a.m.
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Madam Speaker, I have two petitions to present today. After eight years, this Prime Minister has made life unaffordable for Canadians with his carbon tax. Mackenzie residents are simply asking for some relief from this Liberal Prime Minister in this petition. We, the undersigned residents of Mackenzie, B.C., call upon the House of Commons to reconsider the northern living allowance classification for Mackenzie and change from its current prescribed immediate zone of 50% deduction to full prescribed northern zone of 100% deduction.
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Mr. Bob Zimmer (Prince George—Peace River—Northern Rockies, CPC)
  • Dec/12/23 10:11:16 a.m.
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Madam Speaker, the second petition is from residents of Skeena—Bulkley Valley. Sadly, their own MP would not present this petition on behalf of residents of Smithers—
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Mr. Peter Julian
  • Dec/12/23 10:11:25 a.m.
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Madam Speaker, I rise on a point of order. The member is experienced and he knows that is a clear violation of what petitions are supposed to be.
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Alexandra Mendès)
  • Dec/12/23 10:11:34 a.m.
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The hon. member's point is well taken. Please do not refer to other members. As the hon. member knows, it is not admissible. The hon. member for Prince George—Peace River—Northern Rockies.
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Mr. Bob Zimmer
  • Dec/12/23 10:11:48 a.m.
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Madam Speaker, I think the point being made is that they have tried to get their local member of Parliament to do this and they will not do it— Some hon. members: Oh, oh!
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Alexandra Mendès)
  • Dec/12/23 10:12:01 a.m.
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I have already told the hon. member that is not permissible and the hon. member should not refer to the person, and should apologize for making that reference.
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Mr. Mark Gerretsen
  • Dec/12/23 10:12:21 a.m.
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Madam Speaker, I rise on the same point of order. Please forgive the Conservatives. They are about to make a very important decision on a vote. That is why they are on edge. You have asked him to apologize. He has not apologized and his own members are telling him— Some hon. members: Oh, oh!
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Mr. Bob Zimmer
  • Dec/12/23 10:12:46 a.m.
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Madam Speaker, I guess if it is in the rules of the House of Commons then I will apologize, but I certainly will not apologize for speaking on behalf of residents of Skeena—Bulkley Valley. I will speak to the petition but they are trying to interrupt— Some hon. members: Oh, oh!
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Alexandra Mendès)
  • Dec/12/23 10:13:02 a.m.
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All the hon. member has to do is to speak to the petition and not refer to anything else.
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Ms. Jenny Kwan
  • Dec/12/23 10:13:18 a.m.
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Madam Speaker, I rise on a point of order. I am asking for the member, through you, to retract those comments. It is not following the rules— An hon. member: He already did. Ms. Jenny Kwan: No, he did not. Madam Speaker, he apologized but I am asking for him to retract those comments.
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Alexandra Mendès)
  • Dec/12/23 10:13:35 a.m.
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We will allow the member to go straight to the petition. If not, we will move to someone else. The hon. member for Prince George—Peace River—Northern Rockies.
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Mr. Bob Zimmer
  • Dec/12/23 10:13:57 a.m.
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Madam Speaker, I will get to the petition finally. We, the undersigned citizens and residents of Canada draw the attention of the House of Commons to the following: Whereas the Trudeau government has attempted to ban and seize the— An hon. member: You cannot say the Prime Minister's name.
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Alexandra Mendès)
  • Dec/12/23 10:14:22 a.m.
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The hon. member knows that, even if the petition says it, he cannot mention names of current members of the House.
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Mr. Bob Zimmer
  • Dec/12/23 10:14:39 a.m.
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Mr. Speaker, one more time. The Prime Minister— Some hon. members: Oh, oh! Mr. Bob Zimmer: Can I actually get this done? The truth hurts, I guess.
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Alexandra Mendès)
  • Dec/12/23 10:14:51 a.m.
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The hon. member for Prince George—Peace River—Northern Rockies has the floor and I will allow him to present the petition without mention of names.
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