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House Hansard - 198

44th Parl. 1st Sess.
May 16, 2023 10:00AM
Context: House Hansard - 198 - May/16/23
The Deputy Speaker
  • May/16/23 6:42:48 p.m.
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I appreciate the quorum call, but the order that was passed earlier does not allow for quorum calls after 6:30 p.m. The hon. member for Dauphin—Swan River—Neepawa.
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Context: House Hansard - 198 - May/16/23
Mr. Dan Mazier
  • May/16/23 6:42:58 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-21 
Mr. Speaker, I am aware of the special order. I just want the record to show that we are considering Bill C-21 at report stage without the constitutional requirement of quorum. I point out that the special order under which we are operating also provides for third reading to be—
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Context: House Hansard - 198 - May/16/23
Mr. Kevin Lamoureux
  • May/16/23 6:43:17 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-21 
Mr. Speaker, the rule is that quorum cannot be called. It does not say how many members are in the chamber or in the MPs' lounges. It could be a large number, or it could be a smaller number. It is just that we cannot call quorum.
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Context: House Hansard - 198 - May/16/23
The Deputy Speaker
  • May/16/23 6:43:52 p.m.
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Let me deal with the point of order issue. Before members go any further with their points of order, I would remind them that on May 9, the House duly adopted an order prescribing that the Chair not receive any quorum calls after 6:30 p.m. It is after 6:30 p.m. Let us not talk about it because it is part of the order that we are working under. The hon. member for Dauphin—Swan River—Neepawa.
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Context: House Hansard - 198 - May/16/23
Mr. Dan Mazier
  • May/16/23 6:44:13 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-21 
Mr. Speaker, debate at second reading also took place without quorum on June 9, June 21 and June 22, 2022. That means that Bill C-21 will have been considered without the constitutional requirement of quorum for every stage of the legislative process in this House. The Supreme Court of Canada ruled in 1985—
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Context: House Hansard - 198 - May/16/23
The Deputy Speaker
  • May/16/23 6:44:35 p.m.
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I need to interrupt the hon. member. Bringing up quorum is sort of calling for quorum. Members need to be careful in what they are calling for. The hon. member for Dauphin—Swan River—Neepawa.
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Context: House Hansard - 198 - May/16/23
Mr. Daniel Blaikie
  • May/16/23 6:45:02 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-21 
Mr. Speaker, there is an established rule that members are not to reflect on a decision made by the House. The House did decide to have extended evening sittings for the purpose of hearing members who rightly want to speak to the bill, but they are not to reflect on a decision of the House that was made to not require quorum in order to create more time for members to offer their thoughts about the bill on the record. The line of argument that my colleague is adopting makes it harder for the House to adopt such motions in the future, which I think would be very unfortunate because they are critical to providing the space and time for members to put their thoughts on the record about legislation before the House. Mr. Speaker, I thank you for trying to enforce established rules of the House and I support you in continuing to do that.
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Context: House Hansard - 198 - May/16/23
The Deputy Speaker
  • May/16/23 6:45:53 p.m.
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I am going to remind the hon. member that we cannot call for quorum during this time. We cannot necessarily talk about quorum. I understand that this is probably a part of what his speech actually is. We are running on a little bit of thin ice here. The hon. member for Dauphin—Swan River—Neepawa.
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Context: House Hansard - 198 - May/16/23
The Deputy Speaker
  • May/16/23 6:48:42 p.m.
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Let me just say it this way: There can be no quorum calls. We can talk about quorum on other days, in other court cases, if it has been, of course, quoted somewhere else. I am going to provide a little bit of latitude on this one to listen to the hon. member for Dauphin—Swan River—Neepawa. However, we are staying away from the quorum call for this evening.
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