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House Hansard - 198

44th Parl. 1st Sess.
May 16, 2023 10:00AM
Context: House Hansard - 198 - May/16/23
The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Alexandra Mendès)
  • May/16/23 10:32:16 a.m.
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The hon. member has the floor for his speech.
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Context: House Hansard - 198 - May/16/23
The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Alexandra Mendès)
  • May/16/23 10:47:50 a.m.
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Order. A colleague just started her speech. Could hon. members honour that it is her time to speak? The hon. member has the floor.
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Mr. Doug Shipley
  • May/16/23 11:49:14 a.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-21 
Madam Speaker, as I mentioned in my speech, and if people were not listening I will repeat that part, in the past eight years, I believe, the maximum has never once been given. Yes, we agree with longer sentences, but if the maximum is not being given, what is the point of increasing it? We need to work on reducing crime, and we believe in giving harsher sentences, especially to people who are committing harsh crimes with firearms across the country.
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Mr. Ken McDonald
  • May/16/23 3:48:25 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-21 
Madam Speaker, this may be a point of clarification versus a point of order. The member started his speech before question period, and he was told he could finish after question period and the votes were over. However, he started in one seat, and now he has moved somewhere else in the chamber. Is that permitted, or should he have stayed in the seat he was in?
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Context: House Hansard - 198 - May/16/23
Mr. Mark Gerretsen (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons (Senate), Lib.)
  • May/16/23 4:33:52 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-21 
Madam Speaker, that was another great speech written by Adam. I thank him very much for that. I find it very interesting that the member talks about this side of the House virtue signalling, when we are continually seeing virtue signalling in regard to a ban on assault rifles coming from the other side of the House. The reality is that this House is united, with the exception of the Conservatives, in regard to doing something meaningful about banning handguns and making meaningful legislation as it relates to gun reform. I wonder if the member could comment perhaps—
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Context: House Hansard - 198 - May/16/23
Mr. Bernard Généreux
  • May/16/23 4:34:42 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-21 
Madam Speaker, I would just like to say to my colleague that we are not in government, and, unlike them, we do not use speech writers.
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Mr. Chris Lewis
  • May/16/23 4:35:25 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-21 
Madam Speaker, if there is no question, I will make a comment with no answer. My comment is that I worked hard on this speech. I have been working on this speech for over a year and a half, so I find it incredibly shameful for that member to suggest that this speech was written for me. There are very few folks in this House who will know more about firearms than me, especially about hunting. I would ask him to retract the statement. Unfortunately, I do not think he is going to.
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Mr. Daniel Blaikie (Elmwood—Transcona, NDP)
  • May/16/23 6:37:34 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-21 
Mr. Speaker, I did not hear it in her speech specifically, but I know Conservatives have expressed concern about clause 43 and moved to take it out of the bill. Can she affirm her support for removing clause 43 and explain to the House why she thinks that is so important?
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Context: House Hansard - 198 - May/16/23
Mr. Scot Davidson
  • May/16/23 6:43:47 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-21 
Mr. Speaker, I have a point of order on that point of order. Those numbers are part of the member's speech.
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The Deputy Speaker
  • May/16/23 6:45:53 p.m.
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I am going to remind the hon. member that we cannot call for quorum during this time. We cannot necessarily talk about quorum. I understand that this is probably a part of what his speech actually is. We are running on a little bit of thin ice here. The hon. member for Dauphin—Swan River—Neepawa.
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Context: House Hansard - 198 - May/16/23
Mr. Daniel Blaikie
  • May/16/23 6:46:39 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-21 
Mr. Speaker, I am at a loss as to how to proceed. I think the Speaker has made it clear that the line of argument infringes upon certain rules of the House. I appreciate that the member already wrote his speech. As somebody who does not use notes, and I know that the member knows the content of the bill very well, I just encourage him to get out of his notes and speak to the content of the bill. In this way, he will not be infringing upon the rules of the House or upon your recent ruling.
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Context: House Hansard - 198 - May/16/23
Mr. Tom Kmiec
  • May/16/23 6:47:10 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-21 
Mr. Speaker, you have made a ruling, and members have been given wide latitude by Chair occupants in the past to go back into their speech that they have prewritten, where they have made annotations for themselves. The member is referring, obviously, to a court case. He has a point that he is trying to make. If that other member would just let him finish his point, I am sure he will carry on to the rest of the business that he wants to do. I hear members laughing across the way, but they are given the same latitude to speak to bills. We all bring notes into the House to make a speech. You have made a ruling, Mr. Speaker, so we should just carry on with the debate on Bill C-21.
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Mr. Daniel Blaikie
  • May/16/23 6:47:47 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-21 
Mr. Speaker, I am not laughing. What I would say is that if I wrote a speech before entering the House that infringed upon a ruling of the Speaker or rules of the House, I would expect that, it would not be okay for me to if I breach those rules simply because I wrote it down before coming into the House. I would be expected to adapt to rulings of the Speaker on the fly. The member has a prewritten speech, but if it is infringing upon the ruling of the Speaker, simply having written it down beforehand does not mean that he is allowed to continue.
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Mr. Tom Kmiec
  • May/16/23 6:48:20 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-21 
Mr. Speaker, with apologies for prolonging this debate, again, members have been given wide latitude in the House to refer to past votes that have been taken in the House. Member after member has been in the House and has done so year after year. It has never been an issue until right now, when that particular member has a disagreement with the contents of a speech that another member is trying to give in the House.
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Context: House Hansard - 198 - May/16/23
Mr. Joël Godin
  • May/16/23 7:58:04 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-21 
Madam Speaker, I want to say hello to my colleague from Winnipeg North. I am not sure whether he heard my speech or whether he is paying much attention to the comments of the official opposition. We are accustomed to that. He just fills in the blanks. I will simply say this to my colleague: What does his question have to do with Bill C-21? My colleague is out of touch, and it shows once again that the Liberal Party of Canada is also out of touch with the real people on the ground, the hunters and the sport shooters. I am disappointed by his question, but I will respect it and I hope he will respect my answer.
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Mr. Yves Perron (Berthier—Maskinongé, BQ)
  • May/16/23 8:58:11 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-21 
Madam Speaker, at the beginning of his speech, my colleague talked about hunting rifles. I have two questions for him. Here is the real question. According to him, is the current bill about hunting rifles, yes or no? We know that hunting rifles are not affected by this bill. The second question is the following. When the member alluded to that, he claimed that the Prime Minister said that this bill affected hunting rifles and therefore that appeared to be true. Is the member telling us that the Prime Minister always tells the truth?
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