Senator Simons: Thank you, Senator Housakos. I think I gave the answer to the same question when it was posed to me by Senator Downe, that what you’re asking for is a level of specific granularity that is out of place in a broad, general framework.

Also, if I can quote from what Senator Dawson told us at committee, this is from Senator Dawson’s words:

The CBC currently discloses compensation ranges for on-air talent of senior management. They break it down by position and classification of the role. That is consistent with other organizations in the wider federal public sector. What is being proposed would be inconsistent with standard practice in the federal public sector.

Senator Downe: If the Senate agrees.

The Hon. the Speaker pro tempore: Is it agreed, honourable senators?

Hon. David M. Wells: Would Senator Downe take another question?

Thank you for your speech and amendment. You mentioned a couple of times that this would be a daily fine. I don’t see that reflected in the amendment. Could you comment on that, please?

Hon. Senators: Agreed.

The Hon. the Speaker pro tempore: I believe the nays have it.

Some Hon. Senators: Yea.

The Hon. the Speaker pro tempore: All those opposed please say “nay.”

The Hon. the Speaker: Honourable senators, I wish to draw your attention to the presence in the gallery of Ms. Nicole Baptiste, Mr. Allen Alexandre and the artists invited to exhibit their works by the Centre culturel afro-canadien de Montréal and by Mosaïque interculturelle. They are the guests of the Honourable Senator Mégie.

On behalf of all honourable senators, I welcome you to the Senate of Canada.

Hon. Senators: Hear, hear!

The Hon. the Speaker: Is it your pleasure, honourable senators, to adopt the motion?

Hon. Senators: Hear, hear!

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The Hon. the Speaker: Honourable senators, I wish to draw your attention to the presence in the gallery of Mr. Joe Lu, President of Canada Hubei Chamber of Commerce. He is the guest of the Honourable Senator Oh.

On behalf of all honourable senators, I welcome you to the Senate of Canada.

The Hon. the Speaker pro tempore: Do you have a question?

Senator Housakos: My question is this: Why do you want to narrowcast francophone culture and have them only provide their services to a few million francophones when they have hundreds of millions around the world?

The Hon. the Speaker: Honourable senators, I wish to draw your attention to the presence in the gallery of Richard Koo, President of the International Olympic Academy Participants Association. He is the guest of the Honourable Senator Deacon (Ontario).

On behalf of all honourable senators, I welcome you to the Senate of Canada.

An Hon. Senator: Question.

The Hon. the Speaker pro tempore: Are senators ready for the question?

Senator Cardozo: Yes.

Senator Downe: Yes. Thank you. The amendment does not specify that the $2 million is for each day of the violation. That is because — and I’m reading what the lawyers wrote; these are not my words — the Broadcasting Act already provides the following clause 28, the new subsection 34.4(2):

Continued violation

A violation that is continued on more than one day constitutes a separate violation in respect of each day on which it is continued.

That was the question I had when the amendment came — why it doesn’t say “daily.”