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44th Parl. 1st Sess.
March 20, 2024 02:00PM
  • Mar/20/24 9:51:55 p.m.
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The hon. member for Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan is rising on a point of order.
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  • Mar/20/24 9:52:26 p.m.
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The hon. member should know that during a take-note debate we cannot ask for unanimous consent for anything, so unfortunately we cannot do that. I would love to, but I cannot. The hon. member for Winnipeg North has the floor, and no time has been taken from the member.
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  • Mar/20/24 10:03:05 p.m.
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Order. The hon. member knows we should not be mentioning the last names of members. It has been in a number of the speeches tonight. I just want to make sure that those who are coming after cross that out and put in the correct title. The hon. member for Davenport.
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  • Mar/20/24 10:33:59 p.m.
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The hon. member for Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan is rising on a point of order.
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  • Mar/20/24 10:34:16 p.m.
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I really do not recall his actually saying whether he was here or not. I would say that we should be judicious in what we are saying and make sure we do not say whether someone is here. The hon. member for Etobicoke Centre.
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  • Mar/20/24 10:36:33 p.m.
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The hon. parliamentary secretary to the government House leader is rising on the same point of order.
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  • Mar/20/24 10:36:56 p.m.
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We will just take a break here. The hon. member for Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan is rising on the same point of order.
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  • Mar/20/24 10:38:00 p.m.
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The Speaker has ruled on this. He has mentioned that members should be judicious in how we are being recognized here in Canada. What we do here is seen across the world. Saying that one is part of a certain group is incorrect and, I would suggest, unparliamentary in this case. Therefore, I would ask the hon. member to hold back on the rhetoric a bit, rephrase and try to stay away from that. On the same point of order, the hon. parliamentary secretary.
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  • Mar/20/24 10:39:08 p.m.
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When someone in the House is saying that someone is standing with Putin, that is probably a little too far out on the edge, as the Speaker has ruled. The hon. member for Etobicoke Centre.
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  • Mar/20/24 10:39:40 p.m.
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I think that is exactly what has been brought up here.
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  • Mar/20/24 10:40:28 p.m.
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The member for Miramichi—Grand Lake was asked to apologize for saying something very similar to, I think, what the hon. member for Edmonton Strathcona said. The hon. member should retract that and apologize for it. Then we can go on and ask questions. The hon. member for Etobicoke Centre.
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  • Mar/20/24 10:40:42 p.m.
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I have asked you to retract it. Please retract it and apologize, or your evening is going to come to an end. The hon. member for Etobicoke Centre.
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  • Mar/20/24 10:41:01 p.m.
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I will make this easy. The hon. member will not be recognized until he apologizes. We will go on to the next speaker, the hon. member for Jonquière.
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  • Mar/20/24 10:42:14 p.m.
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I believe the Speaker's ruling had to do with the hon. member for Miramichi—Grand Lake saying that the New Democrats support Hamas. That is very close to what the hon. member said this evening. I would therefore like the hon. member to withdraw his remarks. If he declines to do so, I will go to the next person on the list of those who want to speak. The hon. member for Edmonton Strathcona.
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  • Mar/20/24 10:43:52 p.m.
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Ultimately, it is this: When something is causing disorder in the House, we have to find a mechanism in which to put that disorder aside so that we can continue the debate that is scheduled for this evening. The statement was causing tremendous disorder, just like when the hon. member for Miramichi—Grand Lake did something very similar. The hon. member for Drummond.
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  • Mar/20/24 10:49:27 p.m.
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We have to be very judicious in the words we are using and how we are talking, especially when we are talking about things that are so important to the world at the moment. I want to make sure we are giving respect to the debate we are having tonight. That is what I am really trying to accomplish this evening. We will move on to the next speaker, who is the hon. member for Vaughan—Woodbridge.
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  • Mar/20/24 10:55:30 p.m.
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I hate to interrupt, but we are out of time. Five minutes flies by pretty quickly. I will get someone to ask the hon. member a question, and maybe he could finish off his speech in his answer.
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  • Mar/20/24 11:12:38 p.m.
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I think that something was lost in translation. The hon. member for Fort McMurray—Cold Lake.
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  • Mar/20/24 11:17:55 p.m.
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I just wanted to say to the hon. member for Etobicoke Centre that I will not be reporting this back, so the hon. member, even though he became invisible to me for a few moments, will be fully seen tomorrow during the session of the House.
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  • Mar/20/24 11:19:24 p.m.
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I will be bringing this to the attention of the Speaker tomorrow morning.
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