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House Hansard - 267

44th Parl. 1st Sess.
December 13, 2023 02:00PM
Context: House Hansard - 267 - Dec/13/23
Mr. Mike Morrice (Kitchener Centre, GP)
  • Dec/13/23 3:24:20 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, despite climate negotiations being captured by fossil fuel interests, countries just agreed at COP28 to transition away from fossil fuels. Nonetheless, back at home, the government continues to do the opposite, wasting over $1,200 on behalf of each and every Canadian taxpayer to expand the TMX pipeline, and increasing oil production to record levels. Why is it that the PM cannot find the money to ensure that we end legislated poverty for people with disabilities, but has tens of billions of dollars for a leaky pipeline?
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Right Hon. Justin Trudeau (Prime Minister, Lib.)
  • Dec/13/23 3:25:05 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, Canada demonstrated, yet again, its leadership on the world stage with ambitious leadership in putting a cap on emissions from the oil and gas sector, recognizing that we do need to get to a net-zero economy. We need to support all our industries, including our energy industry, in moving towards that. We will be there to support workers in the energy industry as we focus on decarbonization. We will be there to support businesses across this country as they shift to lower-emitting technologies. We understand the process it takes; we will accompany Canadians every step of the way, and we will get to net zero.
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Hon. Karina Gould (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons, Lib.)
  • Dec/13/23 3:26:00 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, there have been discussions among the parties, and if you seek it, I believe you would find unanimous consent to adopt the following motion. I move: That the motion on the Order Paper in the name of the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons related to the appointment of Eric Janse as Clerk of the House of Commons, pursuant to Standing Order 111.1(1), be deemed adopted.
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The Speaker
  • Dec/13/23 3:26:22 p.m.
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All those opposed to the hon. minister's moving the motion will please say nay. The House has heard the terms of the motion. All those opposed to the motion will please say nay. Some hon. members: Hear, hear!
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Mr. Gérard Deltell
  • Dec/13/23 3:27:04 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I rise on a point of order. Three times today, the leader of the official opposition made reference to a document that was tabled at COP28. That document, entitled, Climate Change Performance Index, gives the— Some hon. members: No.
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Mr. Kevin Lamoureux
  • Dec/13/23 3:27:28 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, on a point of order, I am sure that if you reflect on what took place over question period, and the amount of decorum, and this is something that is really important— Some hon. members: Oh, oh!
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The Speaker
  • Dec/13/23 3:27:42 p.m.
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I will just ask the hon. parliamentary secretary to please quote the standing order so the Speaker can hear.
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Mr. Kevin Lamoureux
  • Dec/13/23 3:27:51 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, a member of Ukrainian heritage, the member for Etobicoke Centre, on several occasions tried to get his question across—
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The Speaker
  • Dec/13/23 3:27:59 p.m.
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I am just wondering whether the hon. parliamentary secretary would like to quote the standing order that he is referring to, so I could listen.
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Mr. Kevin Lamoureux
  • Dec/13/23 3:28:09 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, it is Standing Order 18, in reference to decorum. A member of Ukrainian heritage, the member for Etobicoke Centre, on several occasions attempted to get his question across. Some hon. members: Oh, oh! Mr. Kevin Lamoureux: Mr. Speaker, as I am right now, he was being shouted down as opposed to being allowed to be heard. We believe, Mr. Speaker, that you should look at those questions and report back, because we are starting to see the MAGA right from the Conservative Party in— Some hon. members: Oh, oh!
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Mr. James Bezan
  • Dec/13/23 3:29:22 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I rise on a point of order on the issue of decorum under Standing Order 18. The entire time I, a person of Ukrainian heritage, was giving my S. O. 31, I was heckled and yelled at by the Liberals. When the member for Etobicoke Centre got up, he actually misinformed the House when he said that we were opposed to Ukraine. Actually, the Liberals voted against all the measures we took as a government, as Conservatives. The Liberals voted consecutively, in 2014 and 2015, against measures to support Ukraine, including Operation Unifier and Operation Reassurance. Some hon. members: Oh, oh!
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The Speaker
  • Dec/13/23 3:30:01 p.m.
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Colleagues, we are now moving into issues of debate. The hon. member for Haldimand—Norfolk, on a point of order.
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Ms. Leslyn Lewis
Mr. Speaker, there have been discussions among the parties, and I am sure if you seek it, you will find that Bill C-234 would lower the cost— Some hon. members: No.
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Mr. Mark Gerretsen
  • Dec/13/23 3:30:48 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I am further contributing to the point of order raised by the member for Selkirk—Interlake—Eastman in regard to Standing Order 18 and decorum. I just wanted to point out for the member that there were only 34 Liberals here when, he claims, all these votes occurred. I would like to know whether the member wants to say which Liberals voted that way.
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The Speaker
It being 3:31 p.m., the House will now proceed to the taking of the deferred recorded on the motion at second reading stage of Bill S-210 under Private Members' Business. Call in the members.
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The Speaker
  • Dec/13/23 3:45:13 p.m.
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I declare the motion carried. Accordingly, the bill stands referred to the Standing Committee on Public Safety and National Security.
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Mr. Joël Godin
  • Dec/13/23 3:45:51 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I rise on a point of order. During the vote call in the House on a very important vote to protect young people from pornography, the member for Pontiac rose to vote in favour and then rose to vote against. I would like you to verify that she did indeed vote and I hope she voted in favour.
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The Speaker
  • Dec/13/23 3:46:15 p.m.
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I thank the hon. member for Portneuf—Jacques‑Cartier for raising that question. Upon further verification with the table officers, I can assure the member that the vote was recorded only once.
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The Speaker
  • Dec/13/23 3:47:46 p.m.
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The House will now proceed to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 96, under Private Members' Business.
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The Speaker
  • Dec/13/23 4:00:20 p.m.
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I declare the motion carried. I wish to inform the House that because of the deferred recorded divisions, Government Orders will be extended by 27 minutes.
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