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Senate Volume 153, Issue 78

44th Parl. 1st Sess.
November 3, 2022 02:00PM
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Senator Gold: I gave you a different answer today than I did yesterday.

Let me say this because the expenditure of public funds is important, and Canadians are hurting right now.

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Senator Gold: I’ve never dismissed or denigrated the importance of these questions or holding the government to account.

Because there are so many senators who are relatively new to this chamber, let me remind you of what typically — and not, perhaps, inappropriately —

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Senator Gold: Thank you for your question and the commentary that preceded it. Again, I repeat and I know you are not happy with this answer, but I have provided all the information I am in a position to provide, and I have nothing further to add to my statement.

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Hon. Marc Gold (Government Representative in the Senate): Again, you are making assumptions in your question —

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Senator Gold: Again, Senator Batters, with the greatest of respect to you and to this chamber, I am not looking to score points or to be cute. All I can say is that I have no further information that I can share with you at this time, or that I am in a position to share with you, or that I know to share with you. In that regard, again, I’m giving my answer to your question. I hope the chamber will accept that as what I am able to do at this juncture.

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Senator Gold: Without further context, in the year 2012, Prime Minister Harper took two trips, leading a delegation. He went to Davos in 2012. That cost $566,000. Adjusted for inflation, that is $709,000 representing Canada. In the same year, Prime Minister Harper went to China, and was accompanied by a delegation of 30 Canadian chief executive officers. That trip cost $972,000. The Canadian government under Prime Minister Harper covered the expenses of those 30 Canadian chief executive officers. That’s frugality.

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Hon. Marc Gold (Government Representative in the Senate): Thank you for the question. Canada’s relationship with China, which implicates our relationship to Taiwan, is a complicated one, as we all know. It is one that Canada is not alone in having to manage.

With regard to Taiwan, which Canada values as an important partner, and with regard to your question about Chinese aspirations, aggressions and sabre rattling, I will remind you that, in October 2021, Canadian warships joined U.S. warships in sailing through the Taiwan Strait that separates China and Taiwan. Canada is managing its challenging relationship with China in a way that is also deeply respectful of the important ties we have with Taiwan.

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Hon. Marc Gold (Government Representative in the Senate): Thank you for your question and the advance notice.

The death of Queen Elizabeth II was a significant and tragic event for all Canadians. Canada was represented by former prime ministers and the Governor General to pay respects to the monarch who oversaw almost half of our time as an independent country.

As reported in the media, colleagues, the price of hotels surged significantly ahead of the Queen’s funeral. Many hotels were sold out in London because of high demand. Availability was limited, given the unexpected nature of the event and the high demand for accommodations from the 500 heads of state and foreign dignitaries, their staff and official delegations.

The Canadian delegation, which totalled 56 individuals, was larger than the typical delegation due to the significance of representing Canada at this historic event. The official delegation stayed at one single hotel in London in order to effectively participate in official events at Canada House and state funeral events. All members of the official delegation stayed at the same hotel, including the Governor General, former prime minister Stephen Harper, former prime minister Paul Martin, former prime minister Kim Campbell and former prime minister Jean Chrétien, as well as their staff members.

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Hon. Marc Gold (Government Representative in the Senate): No, the immigration minister doesn’t lack compassion. He set that target for the well-being of Canadian society and the future of our economy.

As for the matter of housing challenges for Canadians or those moving to Canada, the government has taken a lot of measures to do its part to try to increase the construction of new housing units in partnership with the private sector, the provinces and the municipalities. That includes, among other things, a $4-billion investment in a fund for new housing, the Housing Accelerator Fund, in Budget 2022 to help municipalities speed up construction and build 100,000 new housing units.

Budget 2022 also provides for an investment of $1.5 billion to continue the Rapid Housing Initiative to create thousands of affordable housing units. There is also a $2.9-billion advance as part of the National Housing Co-Investment Fund to build and repair 22,000 housing units. Lastly, the budget also includes a $1.5-billion investment to promote and expand cooperative housing.

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