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House Hansard - 268

44th Parl. 1st Sess.
December 14, 2023 10:00AM
Context: House Hansard - 268 - Dec/14/23
The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Carol Hughes)
  • Dec/14/23 1:36:23 p.m.
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The hon. member can bring a unanimous consent motion.
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Mr. Kyle Seeback
  • Dec/14/23 1:36:28 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, I am now going to, assuming that I have the unanimous support of the House, move that, notwithstanding any— Some hon. members: Oh, oh!
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Carol Hughes)
  • Dec/14/23 1:36:48 p.m.
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I am sorry. Hold on. The hon. member is able to move a unanimous consent motion if he wishes to. I will allow him to ask for unanimous consent. If there is none, then we will move forward and continue with the debate. I would ask the hon. member for Dufferin—Caledon for the unanimous consent motion.
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Mr. Kyle Seeback
  • Dec/14/23 1:37:01 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, I move that, notwithstanding any standing order or usual practice of the House— Some hon. members: No.
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Carol Hughes)
  • Dec/14/23 1:37:07 p.m.
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There is already no unanimous consent. It is obvious that somewhere along the line something went wrong. I would ask members who are looking for unanimous consent to make sure they have it from all parties before they come to the House. Questions and comments, the hon. parliamentary secretary to the government House leader.
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Mr. Kevin Lamoureux (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons, Lib.)
  • Dec/14/23 1:37:56 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, the member made reference to patterns. One of the patterns that I have seen is with respect to the Conservative Party having adopted the MAGA politics, which are coming from the south into the office of the leader of the Conservative Party of Canada. Conservatives say one thing, for example, that they support workers, yet none of them stood up to say how they were going to—
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Mrs. Tracy Gray
  • Dec/14/23 1:38:31 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, I rise on a point of order. The member opposite is bringing U.S. politics into something that does not even relate to what we are discussing here today, so—
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Carol Hughes)
  • Dec/14/23 1:38:41 p.m.
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That is a point of debate. The hon. parliamentary secretary.
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Mr. Kevin Lamoureux
  • Dec/14/23 1:38:45 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-58 
Madam Speaker, we all know the degree to which there is a lack of respect for organized labour from the MAGA right. This is something on which we have been challenging the Conservative opposition party. What will Conservatives do with respect to Bill C-58? Will they or will they not support the legislation? They have not been able to answer that question. I suspect, if it has anything to do with their pattern, it is because of the MAGA movement from the States that is coming to Canada via the Conservative Party. Can the member say whether or not he is voting in favour of the bill?
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Mr. Dan Albas
  • Dec/14/23 1:39:23 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, when I start talking about the very real concerns of federally regulated, provincially regulated and average, non-unionized workers, the member somehow tries to make it some sort of conspiracy theory. When the member starts spouting what seem to be conspiracy theories about how this is connected to this group and this group is connected to this group in the south, it sounds a little crazy to me. If we cannot clearly express what our constituents are going through, the challenges they have and whether the government legislation is meeting the real needs of the people I mentioned, what else do we have to talk about here? The member can keep asking those kinds of questions in disrespectful ways, or he can start to listen and not name-call.
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Ms. Louise Chabot (Thérèse-De Blainville, BQ)
  • Dec/14/23 1:40:19 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-58 
Madam Speaker, the question as to whether our Conservative colleagues are in favour of this bill to prevent the use of scabs in the event of a labour dispute, strike or lockout is certainly relevant. It is a simple question. The reason this bill is under consideration now is that, for decades, the Bloc Québécois has been lobbying for governments to pass anti-scab legislation. This is also happening because thousands of workers are pressuring the government. We have had similar legislation in Quebec since 1977. In Canada, however, it took significant pressure for this bill to see the light of day. Will you tell workers that you support the anti-scab legislation proposed by Bill C-58, yes or no?
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Carol Hughes)
  • Dec/14/23 1:41:21 p.m.
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I would remind the hon. member that she must address her questions and comments through the Chair, and not directly to the hon. member.
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Mr. Michael Barrett
  • Dec/14/23 1:41:37 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-57 
Madam Speaker, I rise on a point of order. I would like the record to show that the member for Dufferin—Caledon tried to have the House pass Bill C-57, the Canada-Ukraine free trade deal, and the Liberals refused to pass it. That is what Conservatives were putting forward.
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Mr. Kevin Lamoureux
  • Dec/14/23 1:41:53 p.m.
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Number one, Madam Speaker, that is not a point of order. No such question was put to the House. I would suggest the ruling on the member's point of order is that it is not a point of order.
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Carol Hughes)
  • Dec/14/23 1:42:06 p.m.
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This is becoming debate. If hon. members want to continue having a conversation about this, they should take it into the lobby, please. The hon. member for Central Okanagan—Similkameen—Nicola.
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Mr. Dan Albas
  • Dec/14/23 1:42:35 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, my command of the French language is not the best, but I will try to answer the Bloc Québécois member's question. With regard to Bill C-58, what is important for me, as a western MP, is to fully understand how this works in Quebec. That is a question I will be asking Conservative Party members from Quebec. I hope I will have a clear answer for the member.
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Carol Hughes)
  • Dec/14/23 1:43:33 p.m.
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I would remind members that when someone else has the floor, it is nice to give him the attention he deserves, especially when he made such an effort to respond in French. Members on both sides of the House were having conversations, and I would remind them to respect those who have the floor. It is good to hear what they have to say because members may have other questions for them. The hon. member for Esquimalt—Saanich—Sooke.
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Mr. Randall Garrison (Esquimalt—Saanich—Sooke, NDP)
  • Dec/14/23 1:44:05 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, once again, I find it very hard to connect the member's speech to the subject in front of us. I suspect that is because the Conservatives do not really want to take a position on the anti-scab legislation because they are busy posing as friends of labour. By talking about inflation, is the member actually saying that it is workers' wages that are driving inflation? The Conservatives have been arguing all the time that it is the carbon tax. When we look at what is driving inflation, we find it is the war in Ukraine and the increasing greed of corporate profits in the gas and oil industry. Is the member, by focusing on inflation, saying it is the workers' fault inflation is happening? Some hon. members: Oh, oh!
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Carol Hughes)
  • Dec/14/23 1:44:46 p.m.
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Order, please. I am sure the hon. member for Central Okanagan—Similkameen—Nicola has been in the House long enough to be able to answer without having anybody else try to do that for him. The hon. member for Central Okanagan—Similkameen—Nicola has the floor.
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Mr. Dan Albas
  • Dec/14/23 1:44:59 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, I like how you think. I would simply say to my fellow member from British Columbia, first of all, I understand he is not going to be running for re-election. I have always respected his contributions to this place, and I just want to put that on the record and wish him a merry Christmas when we go. On the inflationary deficits, the carbon tax, the addition of things where we have plastic bans that are now being looked at for the packaging of foods, we have a government that seems to always have one dial, which is to spend, spend, spend. As we know from listening to macroeconomists, adding more fuel to the inflationary fire is not going to help deal with inflation. In fact, the government seems intent on doing that, which is why we have continued to press the government to address those core issues. If I am not considered a friend of labour, I want to be. I try to listen to all views, whether they come from my riding or not, and I want to put all Canadians to work in meaningful and safe work.
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