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House Hansard - 31

44th Parl. 1st Sess.
February 15, 2022 10:00AM
Context: House Hansard - 31 - Feb/15/22
Mr. Alain Therrien (La Prairie, BQ)
  • Feb/15/22 10:13:05 a.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-12 
Mr. Speaker, this is a bit of a paradoxical situation. The changes for pensioners will not be in effect until June. We wanted those changes to be implemented as quickly as possible, and we wanted to be sure. The government took its sweet time deciding to change the parameters, and the problem will not be fixed until June. When we ask why things have been taking so long, the government says there is no time to talk about it. It says we have to get this done ASAP, which means gagging the opposition. That way, the government can say it is doing things as fast as possible, but the problem still will not be fixed until June. We could have taken a week to better understand the reasons for this unalterable delay. That would have made absolutely no difference. Meanwhile, many, many seniors are waiting for these payments so they can buy groceries, pay rent and live with dignity. Why muzzle the opposition when it was willing to talk about it here and in committee all week? That is unacceptable.
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Context: House Hansard - 31 - Feb/15/22
Mr. Mario Simard (Jonquière, BQ)
  • Feb/15/22 6:16:01 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-12 
Mr. Speaker, I was listening very closely to my hon. colleague who pointed out that the government has been slow to respond. As everyone knows, because the Bloc Québécois members have repeated it about 12 times today, we warned the government last March of the impact this was going to have on people receiving both GIS and CERB payments. Throughout the day, I have heard the Liberals say that we are simply trying to delay the problem because we did not support closure. I think that is a bit rich coming from the Liberals, after they have been putting off the problem since last March and now they are introducing closure, especially since closure is not the normal way of proceeding in the House. Members are generally allowed to speak. The NDP members supported closure, but I do not hold it against them. I do not know whether my colleague could balance the rhetoric from my Liberal friends and point out that the delay is their fault. We have been telling them since March that they should have done something.
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Context: House Hansard - 31 - Feb/15/22
Mrs. Shelby Kramp-Neuman
  • Feb/15/22 9:55:49 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-12 
Mr. Speaker, what I will suggest here is that the focus of tonight's debate is on C-12. The principle and simplicity of this bill speaks to the necessity of it and our rationale was that although we have no reason to delay, we certainly wanted a timely, thorough study on it.
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Context: House Hansard - 31 - Feb/15/22
Mrs. Shelby Kramp-Neuman
  • Feb/15/22 9:59:36 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-12 
Mr. Speaker, I am happy to respond. This is a result of poor communication and a lack of dialogue. Recognizing that this is time sensitive, there would be no obvious hold up or delay in the delivery of this. We are not talking weeks and weeks. We are talking about giving it the prudent time that it deserves, and I do not think that is asking too much. We are not delaying the bill.
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