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44th Parl. 1st Sess.
April 17, 2024 02:00PM
  • Apr/17/24 4:31:27 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, the witness, Mr. Firth, is here in the wake of the Liberal scandal involving the Prime Minister's ArriveCAN application. It is an app that was supposed to cost $80,000, but ended up costing $60 million. Did the Liberal government, who paid tens of millions of dollars for work that was not done, ask Mr. Firth to reimburse the money or contact him to find a way to do so?
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  • Apr/17/24 4:50:06 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, to summarize, Mr. Firth never paid for a coffee, never paid for a restaurant meal, never paid for a golf tournament and never paid for a whisky tasting, despite all the testimony we heard?
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  • Apr/17/24 4:52:12 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, that is clearly providing a service paid in kind to obtain a contract. It is the very definition of it. Let us go on to the next question. Mr. Firth justified his rate of $2,600 per hour by saying that he did not just work 9 to 5. Does he think that Canadians and Quebeckers got their money's worth with the $2,600 per hour they paid for Mr. Firth's so-called huge number of hours?
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  • Apr/17/24 5:01:51 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, it would be difficult to not be able to supply such a number when, as a matter of fact, the company would be responsible for issuing invoices or issuing the amount owed to them. It would also be up to an owner of a company to administer and to have paperwork for their employees, including themselves, if they are paid. Does Mr. Firth suggest that he has not paid himself or that he has not kept track of payments to himself? If not, how can we, in this chamber, get this information, and would he supply it in writing later?
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  • Apr/17/24 5:23:20 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, it is very flattering indeed. According to committee testimony, Mr. Firth received $2,600 per hour spent working on ArriveCAN. That is substantially more than the earnings of an average NHL player. It is very flattering that they came to him for advice. It is very flattering that he was paid so much. Does he see this as a reasonable rate of compensation for what he did?
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