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House Hansard - 298

44th Parl. 1st Sess.
April 11, 2024 10:00AM
Context: House Hansard - 298 - Apr/11/24
The Deputy Speaker
  • Apr/11/24 1:44:48 p.m.
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We are saying not to have conditions to the apology and the retraction. The hon. member for Timmins—James Bay.
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Mr. Charlie Angus
  • Apr/11/24 1:44:58 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I will say this for the third time: I retract it. I apologize. Can I continue?
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The Deputy Speaker
  • Apr/11/24 1:45:15 p.m.
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This will be number three. The hon. member for Lakeland.
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The Deputy Speaker
  • Apr/11/24 1:45:15 p.m.
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You may continue.
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Mr. Charlie Angus
  • Apr/11/24 1:45:15 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I am very sorry that we had to witness the abuse at that committee— Some hon. members: Oh, oh! Mr. Charlie Angus: Mr. Speaker, that is within my purview—
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Mrs. Shannon Stubbs
  • Apr/11/24 1:45:22 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, the member is fully displaying his contempt for democracy and for the duly elected members of Parliament who represent our constituents in this place who may have different views and opinions from him. He actually did not apologize. He retracted and defended himself. The end of his comments were actually to further reinforce the truth of the assertion that he made. This entire thing is such a charade. I do not know why we have rules in this place, at committees or in this chamber, if they are not going to be applied equally and fairly all the time.
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The Deputy Speaker
  • Apr/11/24 1:45:52 p.m.
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We are getting into debate a bit. The hon. member for New Westminster—Burnaby.
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Mr. Peter Julian
  • Apr/11/24 1:45:55 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, when you rise in the chair, I hope Conservatives will respect that and sit down. When you rise, that is a signal for Conservatives to sit down. I very clearly heard the member for Timmins—James Bay. He retracted and apologized— Some hon. members: Oh, oh!
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The Deputy Speaker
  • Apr/11/24 1:46:15 p.m.
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Members should stop yelling. Do that first so that I can hear what is happening on the floor. I cannot hear a darn thing because everyone is yelling. The hon. member for New Westminster—Burnaby.
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Mr. Peter Julian
  • Apr/11/24 1:46:23 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, if you, with order in the House, allow the member for Timmins—James Bay to continue, he has information. It is true that Conservatives disagree, but they are just going to have to listen respectfully, in the same way that we listened to their speeches respectfully a few hours ago.
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The Deputy Speaker
  • Apr/11/24 1:46:44 p.m.
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When I ask someone to retract, they are to retract or apologize but not to provide any other comments. Let us just move on to the next thing. There will be no “buts”, no “ands” or anything like that. Let us just have a straight-out apology. Let us try it, for the fourth time, without the “but”. The hon. member for Timmins—James Bay.
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Mr. Charlie Angus
  • Apr/11/24 1:47:02 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I do not want to challenge you, but I think it will be the fifth time I have retracted and apologized. I can do it a sixth time: I retract and apologize. Can I continue?
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Mr. Charlie Angus
  • Apr/11/24 1:48:15 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, we dealt with 20,000 bogus amendments from a party that did not want any worker representation at the table. There were 20,000 bogus amendments and we were shouted at when we tried to talk about how none of these were actually generated by real people. That is the nature of democracy in our House. Then the Conservatives said they were going to make us vote all weekend. In my final moments, I will say that we have the Conservative leader, who has refused to apologize for his connections with Alex Jones and has refused to distance himself. We are now dealing with the politics of disinformation. I certainly hope I see the Conservative leader today; it is an important issue. If Conservatives are going to make us vote all weekend long, I will be here. I made a promise to workers in Alberta, I made a promise to miners and I made a promise to people working in the auto sector that we were going to make sure that they had a voice at the table, no matter what the Conservatives did to try to interrupt us.
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The Deputy Speaker
  • Apr/11/24 1:48:15 p.m.
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You may continue.
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Mr. Warren Steinley (Regina—Lewvan, CPC)
  • Apr/11/24 1:48:19 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, we just saw a demonstration from the member of Parliament for Timmins—James Bay of why he will not run for re-election. He does not represent any of the views of his constituents. The reason he said he will be here all weekend is that—
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Mr. Peter Julian
  • Apr/11/24 1:48:36 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, on a point of order, those were absolutely inappropriate, disingenuous comments. This is questions and comments on the bill, not personal attacks. The member should know better, and he should retract and apologize.
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The Deputy Speaker
  • Apr/11/24 1:48:52 p.m.
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Not that I am supposed to comment on the debate that is happening, but it is coming from all sides at the moment. The hon. member for Regina—Lewvan.
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Mr. Warren Steinley
  • Apr/11/24 1:48:59 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I will take no lessons in honour from the NDP House leader, who has no lessons to give. I would ask the member for Timmins—James Bay if he could put it on the record today and talk about some of the oil workers he has talked to in his riding and share their comments on the unjust transition bill. Has the member had conversations with some of the people who work hard? He talked about the Alberta Federation of Labour. I am sure the members of the natural resources committee talked to them as well. I believe our natural resources committee members on the Conservative side have canvassed far and wide to hear how people feel about the unjust transition act. Has the member? If he is so confident, maybe he should decide to re-offer and run again in Timmins—James Bay.
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Mr. Charlie Angus
  • Apr/11/24 1:49:53 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, who have I spoken to? I have spoken with the carpenters union. I met with them in Edmonton. I have spoken with operating engineers. I visited the IBEW in western Canada multiple times. I have worked with Unifor in western Canada. I have worked with the Canadian Labour Congress. I have worked with United Steelworkers District 6, who represent the mining communities, and United Steelworkers District 3. Does the member know what they all said to me? They all asked why the Conservatives were running this relentless gong show to try to stop their members from being heard on issues related to their futures and their jobs. That is who I hear from. I do not hear from Alex Jones. I do not hear from the far-right extremists. I hear from people who work and who have a right to be heard and who are being denied their right by the constant interference and undermining of basic legislation by the Conservatives.
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Mr. Kevin Lamoureux (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons, Lib.)
  • Apr/11/24 1:50:51 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, the majority of members inside this chamber recognize the importance of Bill C-50 to Canadians as a whole. What we have witnessed, once again, is the obstructive, destructive behaviour coming from the official opposition. We can highlight what took place in committee, where AI was used to generate 20,000-plus amendments. I am wondering if my colleague could share with me what he thinks about AI being used to generate a filibuster for the official opposition.
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