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House Hansard - 298

44th Parl. 1st Sess.
April 11, 2024 10:00AM
Context: House Hansard - 298 - Apr/11/24
The Deputy Speaker
  • Apr/11/24 1:41:44 p.m.
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We have another point of order. The hon. member for New Brunswick Southwest.
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Mr. John Williamson
  • Apr/11/24 1:41:46 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I have neither heard a retraction nor an apology. You asked for it. It needs to be explicit. We need to hear it in this chamber, not just a running over of it like it did not happen. The member should retract and apologize.
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The Deputy Speaker
  • Apr/11/24 1:42:00 p.m.
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The usage of that term is not correct. Could the hon. member retract it and then move on? The hon. member for Timmins—James Bay.
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Mr. Charlie Angus
  • Apr/11/24 1:42:10 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I was pretty sure that I used it as a simile, that these were the tactics they were using—
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The Deputy Speaker
  • Apr/11/24 1:42:24 p.m.
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Retract.
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Mr. Charlie Angus
  • Apr/11/24 1:42:27 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I retract it, but I do know that they have met with neo-Nazis from Germany. That is a separate issue.
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Mr. Mel Arnold
  • Apr/11/24 1:42:44 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, the member has been here a long time and will hopefully not be here much longer, but he has been here long enough to know that one cannot say indirectly what one cannot say directly. He knows that. He should know better. He needs to apologize or leave the chamber.
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The Deputy Speaker
  • Apr/11/24 1:42:48 p.m.
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Would the hon. member for Timmins—James Bay please retract and apologize for the usage of that term?
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Mr. Charlie Angus
  • Apr/11/24 1:43:04 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, yes, certainly, I retract it, but I will now go back to the point— Some hon. members: Oh, oh!
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The Deputy Speaker
  • Apr/11/24 1:43:04 p.m.
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I cannot hear anything, so I would not know. The hon. member for Timmins—James Bay.
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The Deputy Speaker
  • Apr/11/24 1:43:06 p.m.
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The hon. member for Saskatoon—University.
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Mr. Charlie Angus
  • Apr/11/24 1:43:06 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, it is very telling because we did have to listen to eight hours of screaming, shouting and intimidation—
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Mr. Corey Tochor
  • Apr/11/24 1:43:20 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, you have asked for an apology and you have yet to receive it from the member. It is on his watch to deliver that apology and for you to enforce it or to eject the individual.
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The Deputy Speaker
  • Apr/11/24 1:43:20 p.m.
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Still on the same point of order, I see the hon. House leader for the NDP.
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Mr. Peter Julian
  • Apr/11/24 1:43:23 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, the member retracted. I would ask members of the Conservative Party to actually listen to his speech and allow him to continue.
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Mr. John Nater
  • Apr/11/24 1:43:35 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, on that same point of order, I would draw your attention to the Debates from February 12, 1997, at page 8014, 8016 and 8017, in which the Speaker found that the unwillingness of the then member for Fraser Valley East to fully retract and apologize without conditions constituted a breach of the authority of the Chair and subsequently named the hon. member, pursuant to Standing Order 11. I suggest that this is a similar case to that.
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The Deputy Speaker
  • Apr/11/24 1:44:11 p.m.
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Let us try once again to retract it and apologize so that we can move on. The hon. member for Timmins—James Bay, go ahead so that I can hear it.
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Mr. Charlie Angus
  • Apr/11/24 1:44:18 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, you did hear it before, so you will hear it again: I retract and I apologize. I certainly apologize, as well, for anybody who had to watch the behaviour of the Conservatives who shut down our committee with screaming, shouting and intimidation for eight straight hours. The reason they did that was so the public would not hear these facts, which is why we have to deal with these constant interruptions. When we talk about facts with Conservatives, they are threatened by them. I think I made a very clear—
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The Deputy Speaker
  • Apr/11/24 1:44:48 p.m.
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We are saying not to have conditions to the apology and the retraction. The hon. member for Timmins—James Bay.
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Mr. Charlie Angus
  • Apr/11/24 1:44:58 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I will say this for the third time: I retract it. I apologize. Can I continue?
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