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44th Parl. 1st Sess.
December 11, 2023 11:00AM
  • Dec/11/23 1:59:39 p.m.
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This is a debate. I would remind members that they cannot say indirectly what they cannot say directly. If the hon. member would withdraw his comment, we will go to Statements by Members and he can continue his speech later. The hon. parliamentary secretary.
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  • Dec/11/23 3:50:57 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, we are well into the speech and have not heard anything about the report. We have heard about procedure and about some matters that are entirely unrelated. He is talking about a question that has nothing to do with this report—
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  • Dec/11/23 3:59:10 p.m.
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Let us start with the debate. We are not redoing that point. I will allow the hon. parliamentary secretary to complete his speech.
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  • Dec/11/23 3:59:57 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, I rise on a point of order. It appears that we are about 12 minutes into this speech, and we have not heard one word from the member that is relevant. This report that we are debating is about the criminal—
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  • Dec/11/23 4:01:37 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, interruption is the game the Conservative Party is playing. I find it highly inappropriate, because it disrupts the train of thought. At the time the member stood up to say that I was not being relevant, I had both motions in my hand and was going to read the one that we are debating. That is definitely relevant, even for the simplest mind to understand, I would suggest. I would like to be able to continue with my speech and not be constantly interrupted by—
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  • Dec/11/23 4:08:51 p.m.
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Yes, Madam Speaker. You could guess it was going to be about relevance, because the member has not made any relevant comments in his entire speech. He has been given tremendous latitude, and your generosity is a credit to you, but bring this man to order.
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  • Dec/11/23 4:13:26 p.m.
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The hon. member did ask a very precise question. I would remind the hon. parliamentary secretary that he did refer to specific elements of the hon. member's speech.
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  • Dec/11/23 7:52:28 p.m.
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Madam Chair, the member mentioned in her speech water on reserve. I remember in the 2015 election that the Liberals promised this would not be a problem after 2019. I am wondering if she has more comments about that.
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  • Dec/11/23 8:03:39 p.m.
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Madam Chair, I thank my colleague for her speech. I would also like to thank her for mentioning the native friendship centres in Quebec, which are very important and do a tremendous amount of work. In fact, I would like to commend Édith Cloutier, the director of the Val‑d'Or Native Friendship Centre. I would like my colleague to talk about the Truth and Reconciliation Commission. We have been talking about this for years. Where are we at? What does my colleague think of the government's inaction on this issue?
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  • Dec/11/23 8:52:00 p.m.
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Madam Chair, I want to thank the hon. colleague for his impressive speech on this. One of the issues that the Liberals brought up in a previous speech is around housing and that housing is a shared responsibility. I was wondering if the member has any more comments around that.
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  • Dec/11/23 8:57:29 p.m.
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Madam Chair, on a point of order, we are having a take-note debate tonight about Indigenous Services Canada and it would be nice if the member actually spoke about that. That is what we are here to talk about. It is a critical life-and-death matter for indigenous people in this country. He could respect indigenous people by at least referring to them in his speech.
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  • Dec/11/23 10:41:48 p.m.
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Mr. Chair, the member's speech made me remember hearing testimony at a House of Commons committee from former chief Joe Alphonse, who talked about the fact that there were serious fires and everyone around them in non-indigenous communities talked to them in a very disrespectful way. Even though they had a significant plan and had worked at a high level to make that plan, these people came into their communities and marked every house on the reserve that had children in it. I am wondering if the member could talk about how colonial practices continue to harm indigenous communities.
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