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House Hansard - 261

44th Parl. 1st Sess.
December 4, 2023 11:00AM
Context: House Hansard - 261 - Dec/4/23
The Deputy Speaker
  • Dec/4/23 12:06:44 p.m.
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It being 12:07, the time provided for debate has expired. Accordingly, the question is on the motion. If a member participating in person wishes that the motion be carried or carried on division, or if a member of a recognized party participating in person wishes to request a recorded division, I would invite them to rise and indicate it to the Chair.
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Context: House Hansard - 261 - Dec/4/23
The Deputy Speaker
  • Dec/4/23 12:07:23 p.m.
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Pursuant to Standing Order 98, the division stands deferred until Wednesday, December 6, at the expiry of the time provided for Oral Questions. The hon. House leader for the opposition is rising on a question of privilege.
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Context: House Hansard - 261 - Dec/4/23
The Deputy Speaker
  • Dec/4/23 12:28:29 p.m.
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I thank the member for that. There are a number of people interested in talking about this, and I will give the other parties an opportunity to speak to it. I would remind members of the House to keep it to the particulars of the Standing Orders as closely as possible. We can relitigate this on a number of occasions, but we want to keep it as concise as we can. The hon. member for La Prairie.
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Context: House Hansard - 261 - Dec/4/23
The Deputy Speaker
  • Dec/4/23 12:49:19 p.m.
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When hearing members, the Chair is interested in hearing the facts and explanatory arguments on an issue. Pertinent and new information is welcome, but it should be understood that it is not intended to allow members to continuously take on interventions. I am getting close to the point where I can make a determination as to how to proceed on this particular issue. As I said before, when I took on the job as Deputy Speaker, I asked my predecessor, Bruce Stanton, whether it is a tough job and whether I would be making any decisions. He said, “No, it is the easiest thing I will ever have to do.” This is the second time I am having to make a decision in this respect. I want to hear the facts as they come forward, but I would ask members to try to stick to the facts as much as they possibly can. I know that there are two other people who want to present some facts, but I think that I am soon going to wrap up this debate, because I have heard enough to be able to make a decision shortly.
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Context: House Hansard - 261 - Dec/4/23
The Deputy Speaker
  • Dec/4/23 12:52:39 p.m.
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I thank the member for his intervention. We are down to the last couple of interventions. Let us make sure we stick to the points being put forward and that they are new points. If they are repetitive, I will shut them off and go to the next person so we can move on. I believe there are another couple of points of order to come after, and I want to make sure we are as judicious as possible with the time of this House. The hon. member for Saskatoon—University.
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Context: House Hansard - 261 - Dec/4/23
The Deputy Speaker
  • Dec/4/23 12:55:01 p.m.
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I thank the hon. member for that intervention. Knowing that there are a number of speakers on this question, I will ask the hon. member to shorten up the history lesson. I know he was a great Speaker of the House in Saskatchewan, but I would ask him to get to his point. The member for Saskatoon—University.
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Context: House Hansard - 261 - Dec/4/23
The Deputy Speaker
  • Dec/4/23 12:59:15 p.m.
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The hon. member for Kitchener Centre is rising on a point of order.
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Context: House Hansard - 261 - Dec/4/23
The Deputy Speaker
  • Dec/4/23 12:59:45 p.m.
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We are really getting into the weeds, I believe. I want to make sure we get to the issue of the question of privilege before us. Just to give the House a heads-up, there are a couple of other questions of privilege to be raised today, so I want to move through the next couple of stages to make sure I have the information available to render a decision. The hon. House leader for the opposition.
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Context: House Hansard - 261 - Dec/4/23
The Deputy Speaker
  • Dec/4/23 1:01:38 p.m.
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Let us not get into that. I need to remind members that the focus should be on demonstrating if there is sufficient evidence of a prima facie case and to stick to those particular points. If we have no further points to make in this particular case, we can move on to the next speaker. I will ask the member for Saskatoon—University to finish up for us, because there are a couple other people interested in speaking to this as well.
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Context: House Hansard - 261 - Dec/4/23
The Deputy Speaker
  • Dec/4/23 1:04:29 p.m.
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I believe I have enough to bring this back. I know the hon. House leader of the NDP is reserving some time to come back, so I want to make sure I have the opportunity to hear from the hon. member. I am going to urge the next two speakers to make sure they are trying to add to the point that this is a prima facie case and stick to the information, not to all the other points that members have been making. The hon. member for Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan.
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Context: House Hansard - 261 - Dec/4/23
The Deputy Speaker
  • Dec/4/23 1:09:04 p.m.
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I am trying my best to stick to the facts so this can come forward. Will the member for Saskatoon—University just give the clarification that he wants to give, please.
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The Deputy Speaker
  • Dec/4/23 1:09:41 p.m.
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I thank the member for the clarification. The hon. member for Battle River—Crowfoot.
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Context: House Hansard - 261 - Dec/4/23
The Deputy Speaker
  • Dec/4/23 1:11:59 p.m.
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I will caution the hon. member to get to the point because there are a number of things I want to get moving on. We are already a little over an hour into this question of privilege. I want to give it its due time, but I also want to take it back and then render a decision in the House as soon as possible as Deputy Speaker. The hon. member for Battle River—Crowfoot.
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Context: House Hansard - 261 - Dec/4/23
The Deputy Speaker
  • Dec/4/23 1:12:38 p.m.
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The hon. member for Timmins—James Bay is rising on a point of order. I know what he is going to say, and it is about making the point. I did ask the hon. member to make that point. The hon. member for Timmins—James Bay.
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Context: House Hansard - 261 - Dec/4/23
The Deputy Speaker
  • Dec/4/23 1:13:46 p.m.
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I am going to go to the next individual. We are down to the last speakers on this question of privilege. I do want to cut this off because I am fully aware that time is going by. The hon. member for Selkirk—Interlake—Eastman.
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The Deputy Speaker
  • Dec/4/23 1:18:53 p.m.
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I thank the hon. members for their interventions. I believe I have enough to take back. I am going to come back to the House on this one. There is a fair amount of information to look at, and it is incumbent on me to come back as quickly as possible on this. On a new question of privilege, the hon. House leader for the opposition is rising.
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The Deputy Speaker
  • Dec/4/23 1:19:31 p.m.
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I am going to cut the member off because we have two other questions of privilege and I would like to get those out of the way before I go to a point of order. I apologize. On a question of personal privilege, we have the hon. member for Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan.
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Context: House Hansard - 261 - Dec/4/23
The Deputy Speaker
  • Dec/4/23 1:26:43 p.m.
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Let us try not to take partisan shots at parties as we roll along. I am hearing a lot of chatter, but I am also hearing attacks happening as well. Let us just stick to the questions of privilege that we are trying to raise and try to use the time of the House as judiciously as possible. The hon. member for Timmins—James Bay is rising on a point of order.
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Context: House Hansard - 261 - Dec/4/23
The Deputy Speaker
  • Dec/4/23 1:27:24 p.m.
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The member for Sarnia—Lambton is rising on a point of order.
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Context: House Hansard - 261 - Dec/4/23
The Deputy Speaker
  • Dec/4/23 1:27:44 p.m.
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I will once again remind members of the House of Commons to keep their comments to themselves if they possibly can so we can judiciously get through the questions of personal privilege that have been brought to the attention of the Speaker's Office in accordance with the rules. I urge the hon. member for Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan to continue to make his point.
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