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44th Parl. 1st Sess.
November 27, 2023 11:00AM
  • Nov/27/23 2:25:39 p.m.
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I will remind all members not to approach the limit of what would be considered parliamentary and to stay far away from that so it is not implied that a member is deliberately not telling the truth. The hon. Leader of the Opposition.
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  • Nov/27/23 2:39:37 p.m.
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There are many experienced members in this House, on both sides, who know when a colleague has the floor that colleague should be the only person speaking. I ask members to please keep their comments to themselves until they have the opportunity take the floor. The hon. member for Charlesbourg—Haute-Saint-Charles.
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  • Nov/27/23 2:41:09 p.m.
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I would like to remind the member for Portneuf—Jacques-Cartier not to speak when another person who has been recognized by the Chair is speaking. The hon. member for Charlesbourg—Haute-Saint-Charles.
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  • Nov/27/23 2:48:35 p.m.
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Before I move to the member for Cypress Hills—Grasslands for his question, I would like to remind all members, and in particular the member for Prince George—Peace River—Northern Rockies, to please allow both the questioner to ask questions and the member answering to answer questions. He will have his turn when his name is on the list.
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  • Nov/27/23 3:06:28 p.m.
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I would like to remind all members that, even if they are reading a quotation, they cannot refer to a member of the actual House aside from their riding name. The hon. minister.
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  • Nov/27/23 3:16:26 p.m.
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I am now ready to rule on the point of order raised on November 23, 2023, by the member for Edmonton Strathcona concerning language used by the member for Miramichi—Grand Lake. In her intervention, the member for Edmonton Strathcona alleged that the member for Miramichi—Grand Lake had repeatedly used unparliamentary language in characterizing her and her party's position on the situation in Gaza.
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  • Nov/27/23 3:16:51 p.m.
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In response, the member for Miramichi—Grand Lake acknowledged having called members of the New Democratic Party “Hamas supporters”, repeating the statement into the record. I should point out there was an extended and, I might add, disorderly back-and-forth when the point of order was raised. In House of Commons Procedure and Practice, third edition, at page 623, it is stated: The proceedings of the House are based on a long-standing tradition of respect for the integrity of all Members. Thus, the use of offensive, provocative, or threatening language in the House is strictly forbidden. Personal attacks, insults and obscenities are not in order. Further down, at page 624, it says: In dealing with unparliamentary language, the Speaker takes into account the tone, manner and intention of the Member speaking, the person to whom the words at issue were directed, the degree of provocation, and most important, whether or not the remarks created disorder in the Chamber. In a ruling on March 29, 2022, found at page 3739 of the Debates, the Deputy Speaker stated: The use of inflammatory and provocative statements is contrary to the respect owed to all members. Accordingly, the Chair reminds members to be mindful of the language they use in debate, with respect to their colleagues, in order to maintain proper civility and respect in our proceedings. To quote the Chair’s statement of October 18, 2023, found at pages 17591 to 17593 of the Debates: We have, in the past, had members likening their colleagues to Mussolini or calling each other racists or shouting obscenities. Latitude in expressing one's point of view will be given, but questionable language and unnecessarily provocative statements will no longer be tolerated. Clearly, it is disruptive and disrespectful to associate other members with a terrorist organization. As a result, I have concluded that the words used by the member for Miramichi—Grand Lake were unparliamentary. In a ruling on a similar matter, my predecessor set forth the Chair's expectation of what must follow to bring resolution to the matter. He stated on May 8, 2023, at page 14090 of Debates: To be quite clear, any remarks the Chair deems unparliamentary will be required to be withdrawn immediately and accompanied by a full and proper apology. If a member refuses to comply, the Chair will cease to recognize them until further notice. In consequence, in accordance with my statement from October 18, 2023, the member will not be recognized by the Chair until such time as he apologizes in writing to the Speaker. In conclusion, while reviewing the proceedings of last Thursday, November 23, I noted that other words and phrases were used that, while perhaps not strictly unparliamentary, certainly do not contribute to the level of decorum that we all desire. I therefore strongly encourage members, from all sides, to choose their words judiciously and avoid provocative interventions. I thank all members for their attention, and I would invite their co-operation in raising the level of decorum in this place by not engaging in the kinds of comparisons or associations we have heard.
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  • Nov/27/23 3:23:14 p.m.
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Before I recognize any other points of order on this issue, I thank the member for Yorkton—Melville for her intervention. I would like to refer her to the end of my ruling from today, which I think is important in addressing the issue that has been raised here. We need to make sure that we use language that avoids causing great disruption in this House. As I mentioned, while there were terms that were not strictly unparliamentary, they certainly do not contribute to the level of decorum that we all desire, which the member for Yorkton—Melville has raised here today. I encourage all members to ensure that they refrain from raising disorder in this House by using unnecessarily provocative terms. I will now recognize the other members' points of order and we will bring this to a close relatively quickly.
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  • Nov/27/23 3:25:46 p.m.
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I thank the member for Kingston and the Islands. It is a point that I will be happy to raise with House leaders as I continue regular meetings with them. I recognize the member for Regina—Qu'Appelle, the hon. House leader.
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  • Nov/27/23 3:27:10 p.m.
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I look forward to the hon. member's intervention. I will read it and, if necessary, make a determination. The hon. member for Grande Prairie—Mackenzie.
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  • Nov/27/23 3:29:08 p.m.
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I thank the hon. member. We have had a number of interventions on this. Are there any new interventions or are they on the same point? If they are on the same point, then I would ask all members to take their seats. The point was very eloquently made by the member for— Some hon. members: Oh, oh! The Speaker: I am going to be very clear to all members. I ask all members to please take their seats. The Chair has heard the interventions that were made on this point. The Chair will review the Hansard to make a determination and will come back to the House if necessary. I thank all members for making very important and thoughtful statements, and I will come back to the House on this matter. I see the member for New Brunswick Southwest rising, I hope on a new point of order.
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  • Nov/27/23 3:31:07 p.m.
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I appreciate the intervention from the member for New Brunswick Southwest. On points of order, I really do ask members to please exercise great restraint, so that we can move on with the business of the House. We will listen to new information that is important to raise. The hon. member for Selkirk—Interlake—Eastman.
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  • Nov/27/23 3:32:35 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I am obviously not going to make a ruling from the chair on this. I did not hear exactly what the member heard. I will review Hansard. The parliamentary secretary to the government House leader.
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  • Nov/27/23 3:33:39 p.m.
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Order, order. The hon. parliamentary secretary.
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  • Nov/27/23 3:34:15 p.m.
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I am being very patient and generous in listening to points of order. I would ask that the hon. parliamentary secretary get right to the point. That would very helpful to the Chair.
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  • Nov/27/23 3:36:57 p.m.
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I thank the hon. member for raising this point. The point was very well made. The hon. opposition House leader has a quotation that he would like to read into the record, and then we will move on to the rest of the business of the House. The hon. opposition House leader.
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  • Nov/27/23 3:38:48 p.m.
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I thank the hon. House leader for reading that statement and I will take that into my consideration. I will come back to the House.
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