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House Hansard - 214

44th Parl. 1st Sess.
June 15, 2023 10:00AM
Context: House Hansard - 214 - Jun/15/23
The Speaker
  • Jun/15/23 10:05:04 a.m.
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I can do that. That is not a problem. What happened is that normally I am given the bill to read and it was not handed to me. When looking at it, I assumed the hon. minister had to stand, and I was waiting for someone to stand. No one stood, so I moved on. The error was made at this end, not necessarily on the floor. For that I apologize, for myself and my staff. Ultimately it falls on me. That is why I am going back. We discussed it, and according to the Clerk, I have the discretion to go back. I apologize to both sides for the error. Those things happen. You have a human Speaker, unfortunately. AI has not quite taken over my job yet.
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Context: House Hansard - 214 - Jun/15/23
Mr. Alex Ruff (Bruce—Grey—Owen Sound, CPC)
  • Jun/15/23 11:09:06 a.m.
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Madam Speaker, my question for the parliamentary secretary is around the amendment. It gets to the crux of the issue. I am going to give him a hypothetical. Maybe there is a chance in some future scenario that he is a minister. What would he do if he had staff who were hiding stuff from him, so that he was not aware of some serious allegations, especially when it comes to public safety and the importance of keeping Canadians safe?
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Context: House Hansard - 214 - Jun/15/23
Mr. Alex Ruff (Bruce—Grey—Owen Sound, CPC)
  • Jun/15/23 12:23:39 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I am going to ask the member a similar question to one I asked earlier during this debate specifically around the amendment. It gets to the root cause of how victims are not being treated respectfully at times because of a lack of accountability within the minister's office, in this case the Minister of Public Safety. If the roles were reversed and she was a minister, would she accept staff members keeping her in the dark and not briefing her about something that is impacting victims in Canada?
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Context: House Hansard - 214 - Jun/15/23
Mr. Dan Muys (Flamborough—Glanbrook, CPC)
  • Jun/15/23 12:29:49 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I would echo the comments of my colleague from Manitoba about the hon. member for Humber River—Black Creek, who, I will also note, is a strong member for her constituents on many issues, including this one. I just want to follow up on the question from my colleague from Bruce—Grey—Owen Sound with regard to the amendment. The hon. member for Humber River—Black Creek was a minister of the Crown, and I just want to ask what her reaction would be if, in a situation like this, staff had kept something from her.
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Context: House Hansard - 214 - Jun/15/23
Hon. Mark Holland (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons, Lib.)
  • Jun/15/23 2:34:29 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, as I stated, in March, staff were informed of the possibility of a transfer. There were still many details that were not certain. It was not until the end of May, once the details were confirmed, that the Prime Minister was briefed. I would say for the member opposite, who knows that Correctional Services is independent and that decisions must not be made with political interference, is that we have to have a conversation, as a House, about how we do not interfere with Correctional Services but also ensure that a transfer of this nature does not occur. That needs to be a mature conversation that does not involve a lot of politics.
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Context: House Hansard - 214 - Jun/15/23
Ms. Kristina Michaud (Avignon—La Mitis—Matane—Matapédia, BQ)
  • Jun/15/23 2:45:05 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, at this point, it is a pattern. The ministers are constantly telling us that they are not aware of the briefing notes that senior public servants nevertheless confirm to have sent directly to their staff. We can take their word for it once, maybe twice, that their staff did not see fit to inform them, but there comes a point where it is the political equivalent of saying that my dog ate my homework. These ministers lose a lot of homework. When are we going to see real responsibility on their part? We are starting to worry about their dog's health.
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