44th Parl. 1st Sess.
March 22, 2023 01:00PM
- Mar/22/23 5:29:09 p.m.
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We will have to go back and take that under advisement for the member.
In the meantime, I am going to allow the hon. parliamentary secretary to continue his speech.
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- Mar/22/23 5:36:30 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I really wish he had listened to my speech, because not only did I say I would accept it, but the Prime Minister also said he would accept it, when he announced this. We have already made it very clear that we will accept any recommendation that comes back from the expert who is looking into this on behalf of Canadians, a former governor general. We will implement what those recommendations are, including if it is a public inquiry.
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- Mar/22/23 6:24:03 p.m.
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Order. There is a lot of talking in the House. I would ask those who wish to talk to leave so that the hon. member can enjoy the respect he deserves during his speech and so that everyone can hear what the hon. member has to say.
The hon. member from Trois‑Rivières.
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- Mar/22/23 6:25:54 p.m.
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I had not noticed that it was worse than before. However, if people want to have conversations, they should do so in the lobby. As I said earlier, it is important that the hon. member who has the floor be able to deliver their speech and that others be able to ask their questions and make comments.
The hon. member for Trois‑Rivières.
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- Mar/22/23 6:31:13 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, Mr. Johnston, in his career, whether it was as Governor General of Canada, in his role on national leadership debates, or many other things he has done in his lifetime of 80-plus years, has been impeccable with his credentials. What is being asked of him is something I, and I suspect a vast majority of Canadians, would see he is quite capable of doing in an apolitical fashion and acting on what is in the best interest of Canada.
Based on the member's speech, is the Bloc's position going to be that, no matter what Mr. Johnston reports, it will see no validity to the report?
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- Mar/22/23 6:53:22 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, I would like to comment on the speech by my colleague opposite.
First, in listening to her speech, one would have thought that this debate was initiated by the Conservatives. That is quite something. I am not a Conservative supporter, but we must set the record straight—
Some hon. members: Oh, oh!
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- Mar/22/23 7:11:55 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, if the member would stop yelling, I would certainly be happy to answer the question.
At the end of the day, our commitment, which I noted repeatedly in my speech, is to Canadians. We feel strongly that this needs to be voted on. Canadians want to see where we are on the public inquiry. Our leader asked for it first. We have heard other leaders asked for it. It took them a while, but this is how we can be transparent to Canadians and that is our goal.
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- Mar/22/23 7:22:57 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, I find the speech by the member opposite interesting. First he asked what the Liberals were hiding and why they would not let the Prime Minister's chief of staff come to the committee. Can the member opposite not take yes for an answer? The chief of staff is coming to committee.
In addition to that, he spoke about the former member Kenny Chiu. Officials who appeared at committee said that it was Canadians who determined the outcome of the election and that officials could not determine that the source of chatter in that election against Mr. Chiu could be identified back to a foreign agent.
Is the member opposite suggesting that he knows more than the national security community? Will he stand in his place today and say that he has information and disagrees with the non-partisan public service?
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- Mar/22/23 7:34:37 p.m.
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I would remind the hon. member that this is not a conversation. The hon. member for Mégantic—L'Érable has the floor and we will allow him to finish his speech.
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- Mar/22/23 8:56:39 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, I thank my colleague from Joliette for his speech. The historical part of his speech was particularly powerful and interesting. As he said, I hope the government is taking notes.
There was a time when Canada considered that fifty plus one was a majority in a referendum. That was often the case over the course of democracy's history. It is an interesting point, and the government should remember it as well.
With respect to this idea of applying the microbrewery model to microdistilleries, can my colleague explain, in concrete terms, how that would really help them?
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- Mar/22/23 10:06:30 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I rise on a point of order. I am really quite concerned. We have a tradition in the House of Commons that if a 10-minute speech has been delivered, there is a five-minute question and answer period, and if it is a 20-minute speech, there is a 10-minute question and answer period. What we are seeing is chicken-Tory-soup, of sorts, where the Conservatives seem to feel they can give a 10-minute speech and then not have to be held accountable for their comments, even on an opposition day.
Obviously, that is something I would ask, if not of you, then of the Speaker, to be looked at and reported back to the House. It sets a dangerous precedent to say to members that they can stand up, deliver a speech and feel that they do not have to be accountable for the words they have said by choosing not to stand in their place.
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- Mar/22/23 10:07:24 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I rise on the same point of order. If members do not have the courage to defend their speeches, they should not speak in the House, quite frankly. They have a responsibility to be accountable to members in the House. This is the third or fourth member of the Conservative Party who ran out of the House after giving their speech. Yesterday, we saw the leader of the Conservative Party not even vote on his own motion.
I think this conduct is unbecoming of parliamentarians. If they are going to speak, they should have to stay and answer questions.
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- Mar/22/23 10:11:05 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I rise on a point of order.
First of all, it is not questions. It is questions and comments. Five minutes of comments should be allowed if the individual is no longer in the House. Standing Order 43(c) says, “Except as provided in Standing Orders 95, 97.1(2)(c)(i) and 126(1)(a), following any 10-minute speech, a period not exceeding five minutes shall be made available...to allow members to ask questions and comment briefly on matters relevant to the speech and to allow responses thereto.”
What needs to happen is that the Conservatives need to realize that they were outwitted by the NDP today, suck it up, call it a day and move on. Tomorrow is a new day.
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- Mar/22/23 10:13:01 p.m.
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I will read from the Standing Orders. I will complete the clause that says, “Following any speech by the Prime Minister, the Leader of the Opposition, a minister moving a government order, or the member speaking in reply immediately after such minister, and following any 20-minute speech, a period not exceeding 10 minutes shall be made available, if required, to allow members to ask questions and comment briefly on matters relevant to the speech and to allow responses thereto.”
Bosc and Gagnon state, “If the questions and comments period is interrupted by another proceeding, when debate resumes on the motion, the questions and comments period will continue only if the Member who made the initial speech is present.”
There is also a ruling from 1986 that I can go and dig up, if people want.
As much as I am uncomfortable with what is going on here tonight, I believe there is a small piece of input from the hon. member for Elmwood—Transcona.
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- Mar/22/23 10:14:16 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I just have a question. Was the time between the end of the speech and the beginning of Q and A interrupted by other business of the House?
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- Mar/22/23 10:15:02 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, to answer my colleague who asked me if I will hang around to answer questions: absolutely. It is about accountability. At least the Liberal Party of Canada stands for accountability, transparency and so forth.
We have seen a demonstration, and it has happened to me personally today twice, where a Conservative stood in his place and delivered his speech and I wanted to ask him a question, but I could not. One was the former speaker, the official opposition House leader.
It is not a reflection on the rules, but I would encourage members, in particular from the Conservative Party, to please understand that there is a tradition of a higher sense of accountability. If they say something in the chamber, they should at least provide members the opportunity to challenge, comment or ask a question. I have witnessed this first-hand as a parliamentarian in the House of Commons, but this is the first time that I have actually been stood up twice when I asked a question of a Conservative and they did not have the courage—
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- Mar/22/23 10:25:09 p.m.
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That is not really a point of order, but the hon. member will have questions and comments after he finishes his speech in two minutes and 53 seconds.
I would ask everyone to come to order.
The hon. parliamentary secretary to the government House leader has the floor.
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