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House Hansard - 139

44th Parl. 1st Sess.
December 1, 2022 10:00AM
  • Dec/1/22 12:16:55 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-26 
Madam Speaker, I do. For us to get fully engaged in this, we want full accountability, clarity and a playbook so everybody understands the rules. We want to deal with some of the stuff and provide some leverage for law enforcement and investigations to take place, but there has to be a set of rules and that needs to be backstopped by parliamentary oversight. Where it stands right now, it is not backstopped by parliamentary oversight.
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  • Dec/1/22 12:18:18 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-26 
Madam Speaker, absolutely, but if we are going to give some flexibility in power for the minister to act, it has to be responsibly met with oversight, and that has to be heavy oversight. That will provide the confidence. That is why I wrote to the Privacy Commissioner right after I challenged the government back in 2016 to act on this. We have seen how long it has taken for it to act on this now, so we need to have that confidence. It is a two-way street. If we have the confidence of privacy and protection for people, with oversight, then I think people will be more willing to accept that there could be some changes with respect to how investigations take place.
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  • Dec/1/22 12:20:23 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-26 
Madam Speaker, I want to thank the member for Windsor West for all his hard work on this. Definitely, when it comes to protecting Canadians, he is the right person to do it. I wonder if he would expand on clause 15.2 with respect to no general oversight and what the risk is to Canadians if that is not in place.
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  • Dec/1/22 12:45:16 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-26 
Madam Speaker, I certainly agree that something needs to be done about cybersecurity in this country, but I am increasingly alarmed when I see that the bills continually coming from the Liberal government say ministers would have all powers to do whatever they want. There is no transparency because there is no public record. Then they say not to worry about what the government is really going to do because the Governor in Council, which is really cabinet, will decide afterward with no parliamentary oversight what will be done. Does the member agree that the government needs to have parliamentary oversight and at least have this subject to the scrutiny of committees?
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  • Dec/1/22 12:45:59 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-26 
Madam Speaker, of course, fundamentally I believe in the oversight of government and ensuring that there are checks and balances. When bills proceed to committee, obviously members within the pertinent committee should bring forth ideas to strengthen them, and that includes Bill C-26. Our main priority as MPs is to bring forth good legislation, to improve it and to protect the security of Canadians, whether it is their cybersecurity or health and safety. Bill C-26 would take us down that path.
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  • Dec/1/22 1:04:14 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-26 
Madam Speaker, today in the House we have heard the NDP speak about its concerns, also about its concerns with oversight. Are Conservatives also in support of those changes around oversight?
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  • Dec/1/22 1:04:31 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-26 
Madam Speaker, yes, that is for sure the case. We are in support of more oversight. We would like to see a detailed bill, not a bill that just says that it would give the minister broad powers to do all the things. That is not governing. That is not providing legislation. That is basically saying, “We love puppies. You should support us because we love puppies.”
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