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House Hansard - 107

44th Parl. 1st Sess.
October 4, 2022 10:00AM
  • Oct/4/22 10:03:51 a.m.
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It is my duty to lay upon the table, pursuant to subsection 23(5) of the Auditor General Act, the fall 2022 reports of the Commissioner of the Environment and Sustainable Development. Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), these reports are permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Environment and Sustainable Development.
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  • Oct/4/22 10:06:19 a.m.
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It is my duty to lay upon the table, pursuant to subsection 94(2) of the Access to Information Act and subsection 72(2) of the Privacy Act, the reports of the Chief Electoral Officer on the administration of these acts for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2022. Pursuant to Standing Order 108(3)(h), these reports are deemed to have been permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics.
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  • Oct/4/22 10:06:19 a.m.
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It is my duty, pursuant to subsection 94(2) of the Access to Information Act and subsection 72(2) of the Privacy Act, to lay upon the table the reports of the Auditor General of Canada on the administration of these acts for the fiscal year ending March 31. Pursuant to Standing Order 108(3)(h), these reports are deemed to have been permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics.
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  • Oct/4/22 2:08:45 p.m.
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I believe the Deputy Speaker this morning put it best. If both sides play by the rules and follow the rules, we will all be better off. The hon. member for Vancouver Granville.
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  • Oct/4/22 2:16:40 p.m.
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Before going on, I just want to remind everyone that Statements by Members are very important to the individuals. I want to ensure that everyone can hear what members have to say. I would therefore ask members to whisper or to go into the hallway to carry on their conversations. The hon. member for South Okanagan—West Kootenay.
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  • Oct/4/22 2:36:23 p.m.
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I am having a hard time hearing the answer. I am going to have to ask the minister to start from the top.
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  • Oct/4/22 2:40:54 p.m.
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Order. Listen to the whip. He is wonderful. The hon. government House leader.
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  • Oct/4/22 2:41:52 p.m.
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I missed half of that. The government House leader, from the top, please.
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  • Oct/4/22 2:55:32 p.m.
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The hon. member for Leeds—Grenville—Thousand Islands and Rideau Lakes.
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  • Oct/4/22 3:07:11 p.m.
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I would remind members that when they are asking questions, or responding to them or speaking in the House, they are not allowed to question the presence of anyone. The work of a member, whether he or she is a minister, the prime minister or an opposition member, can be done anywhere in the country. Some hon. members: Oh, oh! The Speaker: Order. We need to show some respect for people who are not here and are working outside the House. Every member has the right to work elsewhere. When they are not here, we do not ask where they are. The hon. parliamentary secretary.
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  • Oct/4/22 3:12:52 p.m.
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The hon. member for Vancouver East.
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  • Oct/4/22 3:17:56 p.m.
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I just want to remind the hon. members that the generosity of the Speaker is there, but not to take advantage of it. All those opposed to the hon. member's moving the motion will please say nay. The House has heard the terms of the motion. All those opposed to the motion will please say nay.
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  • Oct/4/22 3:18:43 p.m.
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I believe that with unanimous consent, we try to have consultation before hand. I was pretty clear about that, and so was the Deputy Speaker, on consulting with everyone, so when we get here, we have already spoken about it, we know what is going on and we go from there. That is unanimous consent.
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  • Oct/4/22 3:19:17 p.m.
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It was clear that he did not have unanimous consent, but I thank the member for bringing that up.
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  • Oct/4/22 3:19:47 p.m.
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I am afraid I am hearing no unanimous consent already. I will leave it there.
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  • Oct/4/22 3:20:09 p.m.
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I just want to make it clear what the rules are. If one person says no, we do not have unanimous consent, and I was hearing very clearly that we did not. Therefore, I am going to take that as a retraction. If the hon. member who disagreed wants to say no, I will let that person say it again. In the meantime, we will let the hon. member for Winnipeg North continue, on the advice of the opposition House leader.
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  • Oct/4/22 3:22:53 p.m.
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It being 3.20 p.m., pursuant to order made on Thursday, June 23, the House will now proceed to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the motion to concur in the fourth report of the Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Development. Call in the members.
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  • Oct/4/22 3:37:15 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-11 
I am now prepared to rule on the question of privilege raised on September 28, 2022, by the member for Perth—Wellington concerning an allegation of intimidation of a committee witness. The member for Perth—Wellington informed the Chair of a situation that he finds troubling. Following a witness’s appearance before a Senate committee, the Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Canadian Heritage submitted an inquiry request to the Commissioner of Lobbying regarding the witness’s activities. The witness had also appeared before the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage in March and May of this year. According to the member, the parliamentary secretary’s conduct constitutes an attempt to intimidate the witness, an act which could be considered a contempt of the House. While the member acknowledged that this matter relates to the work of the other place, he argued that the House of Commons should be able to take up the issue because the alleged act was committed by a member and only the House can exercise disciplinary authority over its members. As the member for Perth—Wellington noted, this question of privilege stems from the deliberations of a Senate committee. My role as Speaker is limited to only protecting the rights and privileges of the House of Commons and its members. As stated in House of Commons Procedure and Practice, third edition, on page 317, and I quote: “It is the responsibility of the Speaker to act as the guardian of the rights and privileges of Members and of the House as an institution.” Therefore, the Chair cannot exercise its authority to protect the rights and privileges of the other house of Parliament. The Chair will not review or rule on that house’s business. That said, the Chair has reviewed the facts submitted that are within its purview. It is not immediately apparent that the conduct in question was intended as an attempt to intimidate the witness or an act of reprisal for his appearances before the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage. The Chair would also remind members of the importance of choosing their words carefully when discussing the conduct of other members. In the opinion of the Chair, this matter does not warrant priority consideration over all other House business. I therefore consider the matter closed. I thank members for their attention. I wish to inform the House that because of the deferred recorded division, Government Orders will be extended by 13 minutes.
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