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Context: House Hansard - 105 - Sep/29/22

Sep/29/22 11:15:26 a.m.
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Madam Speaker, my colleague's question is very pertinent. They are playing with words. I am an accountant and we talked about payroll taxes and social security premiums in my accounting courses. They are playing with words a bit. Generally speaking, when we talk about a tax, we are not talking about a specific program that will benefit citizens. There are taxes we pay when we purchase goods, and these taxes go into a consolidated fund. There are also income taxes. However, employment insurance is rather unique, because the fund is not fully arm's length. If it were, that would at least counter this argument.

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Context: House Hansard - 105 - Sep/29/22

Mr. Ryan Williams (Bay of Quinte, CPC)

Sep/29/22 12:51:07 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, if we talk about what companies need right now, it is jobs. We are short 1.03 million jobs in this country, and we have a government right now that is looking to increase taxes on the workers who are trying to work and who are not getting by. Inflation is caused by more money chasing fewer goods, and one of the ways to produce more goods is to have more workers. Companies are looking for employees who make the food and truck the food across our nation. To ensure that we produce more of the innovation we need for Canada, they need workers. If companies had more workers, it would mean more payroll taxes, which would go to the government. It does not make any sense that we are taxing Canadians more to produce more money when we just need more workers. What is the government doing to create more workers for Canadian companies?

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Context: House Hansard - 105 - Sep/29/22

Mr. Gord Johns (Courtenay—Alberni, NDP)

Sep/29/22 1:02:53 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, we see the motion before us today and we hear the Conservatives talk about the CPP as a payroll tax, when we know that in fact the CPP is retirement security. It is deferred wages, but the Conservatives are manipulating workers to believe that they are paying a tax when their CPP goes up so they will have more retirement security. Their employer has to match it. Therefore, who benefits from the Conservative motion? It is big corporations, because they pay less money to match their employees. This is something that was asked for by premiers across Canada, including many Conservative premiers, but the Conservatives forget to mention that to their own premiers. I think the Liberals have also dropped the ball on the OAS. They are only giving the 10% increase to those who are over age 75. Does my colleague agree that the CPP is deferred wages and security? Also, does he agree that people who are 65 and older should get the OAS increase of 10%?

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Context: House Hansard - 105 - Sep/29/22

Mr. Ryan Turnbull

Sep/29/22 1:50:35 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, I take that to be a good faith question. I am not sure of the actual lapse of which the member speaks, but I can assure her that our EI system is a very important part of our social safety net. As we have seen, our government believes in supporting that social safety net. The Conservatives continue to call it a payroll tax, which it absolutely is not. When we contribute to our pension and we make contributions to employment insurance, those are benefits of which we get to take advantage. They are not a tax in the usual sense of the word.

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Context: House Hansard - 105 - Sep/29/22

Mrs. Cheryl Gallant (Renfrew—Nipissing—Pembroke, CPC)

Sep/29/22 2:54:44 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, this government loves taxes. Payroll taxes are going up. The carbon tax is tripling with 8% price hikes. It is not just inflation. The cost of everything is going up. Will this government have mercy on Canadian families and axe the taxes?

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Context: House Hansard - 105 - Sep/29/22

Ms. Louise Chabot (Thérèse-De Blainville, BQ)

Sep/29/22 2:57:01 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, contrary to what the Conservatives are saying and what the Prime Minister said when he was in opposition, employment insurance is not a payroll tax. However, any cunning opposition party can turn the situation to its advantage as long as there are people who contribute to EI without being entitled to collect it. Such opposition parties have also been able to take advantage of the fact that no government, be it Liberal or Conservative, has taken action in the past 25 years. When will the minister finally reform the program to make sure it does not leave 60% of people who lose their jobs out in the cold? We want to know when.

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Context: House Hansard - 105 - Sep/29/22

Mr. Mark Gerretsen (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons (Senate), Lib.)

Sep/29/22 4:26:19 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, if we were to accept the Conservative position that payroll taxes are taxes and they are something that people have to pay for now, how would the member explain the fact that, if we do not invest in CPP now, those same individuals will have to pay for it later when there is no CPP available to provide for them and their pensions. I do not think we can have it both ways. Are CPP and EI payroll taxes, or are they tools that help provide resources for people in their times of need?

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