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House Hansard - 77

44th Parl. 1st Sess.
May 30, 2022 11:00AM
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Hon. Joyce Murray (Minister of Fisheries, Oceans and the Canadian Coast Guard, Lib.)
  • May/30/22 3:09:08 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, all fisheries are important. All conservation measures are intended to make sure that we maintain a healthy stock. That is the responsibility of DFO. With respect to the capelin decision, we are reviewing the science. We will be coming out very soon with a determination for the harvesters in the coming weeks.
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Mr. Rick Perkins (South Shore—St. Margarets, CPC)
  • May/30/22 8:11:27 p.m.
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Madam Chair, who makes the final decisions at DFO?
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Mr. Rick Perkins
  • May/30/22 8:12:34 p.m.
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Madam Chair, DFO executive-level positions have increased 158%, rising from 65 to 173 during the time of this government. What could possibly justify that excessive growth?
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Mr. Rick Perkins
  • May/30/22 8:14:24 p.m.
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Madam Chair, under the current government, the science budget for the fisheries side of DFO, which is the side that deals with stock management, has declined by 3%, while the environmental ocean side has seen its science budget increase by 65% Is this why 80% of stocks in the critical zone do not have a recovery plan?
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Mr. Rick Perkins
  • May/30/22 8:16:56 p.m.
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Madam Chair, Marshall I states that the indigenous right to participate in the unregulated fishery of 1761 is a right to participate in the regulated fishery of today. Why, then, for at least the last three years, has the DFO allowed out-of-season lobster fishing in southwest Nova Scotia?
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Mr. Rick Perkins
  • May/30/22 8:18:27 p.m.
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Madam Chair, why did DFO instruct CMP officials during the lobster crisis, and the year after, to not go on the water and just observe if they were enforcing the law?
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Mr. Rick Perkins
  • May/30/22 8:20:38 p.m.
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Madam Chair, the minister needs to get new lawyers, I believe. The DFO human resources department has grown by 66% under this government, with 833 full-time equivalent employees alone. With not enough science on the fisheries side, why would DFO increase employees in the department by 66%?
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Hon. Joyce Murray
  • May/30/22 8:20:59 p.m.
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Madam Chair, I can say that we at DFO are very committed to equity and inclusion measures. We want to make sure that our workplace is safe for all of our employees and that it is inclusive, so that probably means more—
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Mr. Rick Perkins
  • May/30/22 8:23:13 p.m.
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Madam Chair, how many prosecutions have occurred from DFO investigations for out-of-season fishing in the Maritimes?
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Mr. Rick Perkins
  • May/30/22 8:25:02 p.m.
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Madam Chair, I guess this is why the department is failing in its targets. Eight degrees is the answer. It is 8° when DFO does its science on spawning biomass, when mackerel only spawn in waters of 10° to 13°. Is the minister surprised to learn that the science that is being presented to her presents a picture of a low spawning biomass when DFO does its science because mackerel are not spawning?
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Mrs. Caroline Desbiens
  • May/30/22 8:51:07 p.m.
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Madam Chair, at a parliamentary committee at the National Assembly of Quebec, Quebec's department of agriculture, fisheries and food revealed that DFO and its minister did not notify the Quebec government before suspending the mackerel and herring fishery, even though they are supposed to. We in Quebec would like to know why.
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Mrs. Caroline Desbiens
  • May/30/22 8:53:20 p.m.
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Madam Chair, I will repeat my question. What data did the DFO use to make this decision? Did they use the figures provided by fishers in the Gaspé pelagic fishery, who stated that they are the only ones to report their catches? Did the department use those figures when it decided to close the fishery this year?
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Ms. Lisa Marie Barron
  • May/30/22 9:01:21 p.m.
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Madam Chair, it will achieve its goals through collaboration across government, partners, stakeholders and interested parties. Dr. Brian Riddell of the Pacific Salmon Foundation said he has not been able to participate in any consultations around the PSSI. Ms. Charlotte Whitney from the Central Coast Indigenous Resource Alliance indicated that the department has provided no information about how the program would be implemented alongside first nations research and traditional knowledge. When will Canadians see any forward movement from this program if DFO is not ready to consult with key scientific institutions such as the Pacific Salmon Foundation?
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Ms. Lisa Marie Barron
  • May/30/22 9:02:35 p.m.
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Madam Chair, does the minister agree that the department is doing enough to consult with first nations when DFO still has not shared with indigenous communities where their knowledge and expertise will fit within the PSSI?
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Context: House Hansard - 77 - May/30/22
Hon. Joyce Murray
  • May/30/22 9:02:49 p.m.
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Madam Chair, consulting with stakeholders is at the foundation of what we do at DFO, because we know we get better results that way. We are consulting with first nations. We have briefed Dr. Riddell from the Pacific Salmon Foundation—
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Ms. Lisa Marie Barron
  • May/30/22 9:04:16 p.m.
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Madam Chair, does the minister agree that the fact that DFO is still reviewing applications for expansion to aquaculture facilities raises serious doubts about the government's commitment to remove open-net fish farms from B.C. waters?
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Ms. Lisa Marie Barron
  • May/30/22 9:06:23 p.m.
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Madam Chair, last year's Oceana Fishery Audit highlighted that one-third of all of Canada's fish stocks remained uncertain due to insufficient data. When will DFO ensure that all of Canada's stocks have sufficient assessments completed?
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Ms. Lisa Marie Barron
  • May/30/22 9:09:32 p.m.
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Madam Chair, last year's flooding in the lower Fraser, and in British Columbia as a whole, could have devastating impacts on already threatened salmon species. When the PSSI's senior director Sarah Murdoch testified to the fisheries and oceans committee, she said that DFO was not looking to reallocate resources from the PSSI to help with salmon habitat restoration in the wake of last year's flooding. Does the minister agree that this emergency event is worth allocating funding towards?
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Ms. Lisa Marie Barron
  • May/30/22 9:10:21 p.m.
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Madam Chair, how many projects has DFO helped to support in the wake of last year's flooding in British Columbia?
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Context: House Hansard - 77 - May/30/22
Hon. Joyce Murray
  • May/30/22 9:10:29 p.m.
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Madam Chair, the flooding was a huge cost and a huge tragedy. The lead ministries are other ministries, not DFO, but we have been at the table to bring forward our concerns and to check what the impact was on the spawning grounds and hatcheries in that area.
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