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House Hansard - 75

44th Parl. 1st Sess.
May 19, 2022 10:00AM
Context: House Hansard - 75 - May/19/22
Hon. Filomena Tassi
  • May/19/22 9:16:37 p.m.
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Madam Chair, our responsibility is with the landowners.
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Mr. Luc Berthold
  • May/19/22 9:16:42 p.m.
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Madam Chair, how can Public Services and Procurement Canada not be involved if the government is signing a mutually agreeable contract with a private company, a contract that could be worth $395 million?
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Hon. Filomena Tassi
  • May/19/22 9:16:55 p.m.
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Madam Chair, I am going to have to ask the member to repeat the question.
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Mr. Luc Berthold
  • May/19/22 9:17:06 p.m.
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Madam Chair, how can the minister not be involved in a contract with a private company, a contract worth $400 million?
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Hon. Filomena Tassi
  • May/19/22 9:17:21 p.m.
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Madam Chair, if I understood this properly, we support Transport Canada to acquire the property.
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Mr. Luc Berthold
  • May/19/22 9:17:30 p.m.
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Madam Chair, can Public Services and Procurement Canada explain to us how the government can enter into a mutually agreeable private contract with a private company for $400 million?
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Hon. Filomena Tassi
  • May/19/22 9:17:47 p.m.
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Madam Chair, just to be clear, we are negotiating with the landowners, who have the ability to have appraisals, etc.
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Mr. Luc Berthold
  • May/19/22 9:18:03 p.m.
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Madam Chair, it is my understanding, then, that the minister's department will not be involved in negotiations with Canadian Pacific for the acquisition of the bypass and for the construction contract.
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Hon. Filomena Tassi
  • May/19/22 9:18:17 p.m.
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Madam Chair, I am sorry; I hope I am understanding. We are in negotiation with the landowners.
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Mr. Luc Berthold
  • May/19/22 9:18:28 p.m.
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Madam Chair, I will ask the minister this question for the last time. Will her department be involved in reaching an agreement with Canadian Pacific for the construction and acquisition of the rail line?
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Hon. Filomena Tassi
  • May/19/22 9:18:45 p.m.
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Madam Chair, I would suggest that that question be directed to Transport Canada.
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Mr. Luc Berthold
  • May/19/22 9:18:51 p.m.
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Madam Chair, is the minister familiar with Andrew Kendrick, who appeared before the Standing Committee on Government Operations and Estimates on May 13?
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Hon. Filomena Tassi
  • May/19/22 9:18:58 p.m.
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Madam Chair, no, I do not.
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Mr. Luc Berthold
  • May/19/22 9:19:04 p.m.
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Madam Chair, Mr. Kendrick is an architect who worked for the government from 1981 to 2020. He has credibility and a great deal of experience. He told the committee that the offshore patrol ship project process, which is supposed to be fair, open and transparent, is not. It is completely opaque. Does the minister agree with his statement?
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Hon. Filomena Tassi
  • May/19/22 9:19:25 p.m.
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Madam Chair, as I have said, our processes are open, fair and transparent. I have not seen the testimony, but I would just assert that that is what our process is.
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Mr. Luc Berthold
  • May/19/22 9:19:39 p.m.
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Madam Chair, Mr. Kendrick, who worked for the Government of Canada from 1981 to 2020, said that what concerns him about the whole shipbuilding process is that the government has lost control of situation. Does the minister agree?
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Hon. Filomena Tassi
  • May/19/22 9:19:55 p.m.
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Madam Chair, absolutely not. I do not agree with that.
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Mr. Luc Berthold
  • May/19/22 9:20:01 p.m.
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Madam Chair, Mr. Kendrick also says that Canada's national shipbuilding strategy is not delivering the ships that the Canadian Navy and Coast Guard need. According to him, the few ships that the strategy has delivered have cost an indecent amount of money, and Canada has become an international laughingstock. Is the minister okay with being a laughingstock?
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Hon. Filomena Tassi
  • May/19/22 9:20:23 p.m.
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Madam Chair, again, what I would say is that I am proud of the national shipbuilding strategy. I think the economic benefits for Canada, the jobs that it creates, and the amazing work that is taking place are something that we as Canadians should all be proud of.
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Mr. Luc Berthold
  • May/19/22 9:20:39 p.m.
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Madam Chair, in his statement, Mr. Kendrick said that, broadly speaking, Canada is paying between three and five times the world price for ships and taking two to four times longer to get them. Is the minister also proud of those results?
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