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House Hansard - 75

44th Parl. 1st Sess.
May 19, 2022 10:00AM
  • May/19/22 10:08:05 p.m.
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Mr. Chair, I am going to share my time with the member for Louis-Saint-Laurent. I thank the minister for her work tonight. It is quite a feat to put in all the time and to answer all the questions, and I thank her for that. Andrew Kendrick, a naval architect with 40 years' experience, appeared before committee. His statement was that it costs three to five times the world price and two to four times longer to deliver ships in Canada versus the rest of the world. Does the minister have any comment on that? Has she investigated and verified this to be true, or does she feel we are in line with world price and world delivery?
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  • May/19/22 10:09:27 p.m.
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Mr. Chair, he was the project manager from 2007 to 2010 for AOPS, so I think he is very well informed. The surface combatant went from $14 billion to $26 billion to $56 billion. The Parliamentary Budget Officer says it could be $77 billion. At what point does the minister say we have got to slow down here and we need to go line by line to understand how this has quadrupled or gone up even more?
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  • May/19/22 10:10:31 p.m.
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Mr. Chair, I have no question at all about the economic benefits. I have no question about how hard the workers work in all the shipyards. The same work is getting done around the world using the same steel and the same technology, yet Canada still pays four to five times the amount. Will the minister look into this and find out how this can be?
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  • May/19/22 10:11:14 p.m.
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Mr. Chair, that is fine. She also mentioned tax. There is not $40 billion worth of tax on a $14-billion project, unless taxes are really being hiked in the future. Another one is the offshore oceanic vessel. The original price tag was $100 million, and now it is $1 billion. How do we have a ten bagger on a project? That seems like mismanagement. The other question is this: Will she open the books to the Parliamentary Budget Officer so he can go through them? He had to use U.S. numbers to come to his conclusion of $77 billion.
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  • May/19/22 10:12:03 p.m.
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Mr. Chair, if one comes to committee, they will find out the Parliamentary Budget Officer did not have that much help and he did not really feel like it was transparent. He said that in his statements. One other question I have is about ArriveCAN. How much did ArriveCAN cost the taxpayers of Canada, from the concept to the product being used today? How much did ArriveCAN cost?
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  • May/19/22 10:12:34 p.m.
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Mr. Chair, is the procurement minister saying that her department had nothing to do with procuring the ArriveCAN app?
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  • May/19/22 10:12:53 p.m.
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Mr. Chair, we definitely need some further investigation on it. On COVID vaccines, Moderna was originally pegged at 35 million doses per year. It is now 25 million doses for 2022. It went from 35 million to 25 million. Why was there a decrease of 10 million doses?
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  • May/19/22 10:13:34 p.m.
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Mr. Chair, it is on her website. That is where I got it from. There is a footnote there. Pfizer is also projected to be 65 million doses a year. Therefore, 25 million doses plus 65 million doses is 90 million doses. How much will those 90 million doses cost the Canadian taxpayer this year?
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  • May/19/22 10:14:22 p.m.
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Mr. Chair, we were talking about transparency tonight. I asked a simple question. How much does it cost to procure 90 million doses for 2022? It should be pretty easy to answer.
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  • May/19/22 10:14:46 p.m.
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Mr. Chair, on April 29, the minister appeared before committee and did a fine job, I will admit. I asked her a question about the Prime Minister's $750,000 kitchen renovation at Harrington Lake and she said she would get back to me. I wonder if she has had time to look it up and figure out what comes with the $750,000 kitchen renovation.
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  • May/19/22 10:15:30 p.m.
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Mr. Chair, with regard to Ukraine, I wonder if the minister can tell us how much of what they have procured, everything that has been accumulated and sent overseas, has actually reached Ukrainian land. Is it stuck in Poland? Is it in Crete? What is the percentage? How much?
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