I have to ask the member: When I talk to people in my riding—I talk to people all across the province. What they tell me is that what we have a huge problem in Ontario with is access to care, access to surgeries. We are making unprecedented investments in nurses, a higher number of people into the system than ever before, building new medical schools. Everything we do in Bill 60 is about ensuring that there is more access to these surgeries, all paid for by your OHIP card.

I would ask the member—and I understand it’s difficult for her to retreat from her own philosophy and theology when it comes to public versus private. But can you not at least admit that what we’re doing in Bill 60 is going to lead to reduced wait times for surgeries here in the province of Ontario?