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44th Parl. 1st Sess.
December 12, 2023
The Chair (Ms. Lena Metlege Diab (Halifax West, Lib.))
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I call the meeting to order. Welcome to meeting number 89 of the House of Commons Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights. Pursuant to the order of reference adopted by the House on June 21, 2023, the committee's continuing its study of Bill C-40, an act to amend the Criminal Code, to make consequential amendments to other acts and to repeal a regulation regarding miscarriage of justice reviews. Today's meeting is taking place in a hybrid format, pursuant to the Standing Orders. We have with us two returning witnesses from the Department of Justice. We welcome Ms. Julie Besner, senior counsel, Public Law and Legislative Services Sector, and Ms. Shannon Davis-Ermuth, acting general counsel and director. I'm going to continue with the clause-by-clause consideration of Bill C-40. We were on clause 2.
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Hon. Rob Moore (Fundy Royal, CPC)
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I have a quick point of order, Madam Chair. I'm not going to belabour this point, because we did discuss it a little bit, but I want to draw the committee's attention to the notice of motion that we had inviting the minister here. We agreed to it on November 28. It was that the Minister of Justice appear “no fewer than 2 hours regarding the Supplementary Estimates (B) 2023-24, and that this meeting take place as soon as possible, and no later than December 7”. At this committee, we very rarely have unanimity, and this was a time when we actually all agreed to this. I know we talked about it last Thursday. It's just that here we are again. The notice of meeting came out, and I saw once again that we were on Bill C-40, and the minister was not appearing. I still think there's a compelling reason why we would want to hear from the minister. I know his time was reduced from two hours to one, but maybe we could have a two-hour meeting with the minister. We had said “no later than December 7”. It was scheduled for December 7, and now here we are sometime later and still no minister. Perhaps you have something to say on that, Madam Chair. I think I know what you're going to say, but I would be remiss if I didn't mention it, because here we are again. The motion said at the earliest possible opportunity, and the minister's not here.
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The Chair
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I thank you, Mr. Moore, as the vice-chair of the committee, and all of your caucus. I will not entertain this again; I've already ruled on this point. I have absolutely nothing more to add. My decision stands, and that is it. I will not entertain any more points of order on that.
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Mr. Rhéal Éloi Fortin (Rivière-du-Nord, BQ)
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Madam Chair...
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