44th Parl. 1st Sess.
November 20, 2023
- 11:39:11 a.m.
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Thank you so much, Mr. Chair. This is very interesting testimony today.
I'm going to ask my initial questions to Mr. Lockhart. If I have time, I would like to ask some questions to Monsieur Carrière as well.
I want to talk a bit about the points you made around the increased prosperity and how that's potentially not going to be distributed equitably among workers. My questions relate to protections of workers. You mentioned a responsible framework. I wonder if you could expand on what you think those responsible frameworks could look like on a federal level.
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- 11:40:56 a.m.
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Thank you for that.
Do you think, perhaps, that the federal government could lead an advisory council or a round table? If so, who do you think should be on there? What groups should be represented?
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- 11:41:38 a.m.
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Thank you so much.
Monsieur Carrière, I also have a question around the protection of workers. You talked about it.
I'm worried about populating the tools with workers' ideas, skills and experiences, and then those workers never receiving any of the benefits of that. All of their intellectual and cognitive property and even their copyright rights are potentially at risk. I'm wondering if you could expand on how we protect workers' ideas, skills and experiences?
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- 11:44:17 a.m.
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Thank you so much.
I'm going to use my last less than a minute to ask Mr. Bessen this: We recently experienced the writers' and actors' strikes down in the United States. It had an affect up here in Canada. I'm from B.C. It put a lot of people out of work for over six months. I wonder what was learned around AI with regard to the recent strikes in the acting and writing fields?
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- 12:00:02 p.m.
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Thank you.
I'm going to ask Mr. Carrière.... Hopefully, we can keep it to about a minute, because I would also like to ask Mr. Lockhart about equity.
Thank you so much, Monsieur Carrière, for bringing back the humanity part of this discussion. We are a committee that has “human resources” at the beginning of its title.
I want to revisit something. The CLC—the Canadian Labour Congress—testified in front of this committee and recommended an advisory council on artificial intelligence.
I'm wondering whether you agree with this recommendation—that the federal government should have an advisory council that looks at the impacts on human resources. If so, who should be on that advisory council? Who should be represented?
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- 12:01:52 p.m.
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Thank you so much.
Mr. Lockhart, I want to revisit equity.
Again, this committee also looks at persons with disabilities.
I'm wondering whether you could share a bit about the work and discussions happening in your organization around what equity needs to look like in relation to AI.
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- 12:50:31 p.m.
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Thank you, Mr. Chair.
I do have only six minutes, and I have some committee business I want to speak to first.
Just so that witnesses can prepare, I'm going to ask witness Autor and witness Janssen this question. It has been proposed in this committee that a federal advisory council be struck. I wonder if I could ask both of you, after I finish my other committee business here, what top three topics each of you feel need to be considered at a federal advisory council and, I guess, first of all, if you think that's a good idea.
Mr. Chair, before I go to the witnesses, I want to respond to the letter the committee received back from Air Canada on our request for Mr. Rousseau, the CEO, to appear before committee. We received a letter that, I think, outlines that Mr. Rousseau does not plan on coming to committee.
I was wondering if I could get consensus from the committee that we reach back to Air Canada and say that we strongly encourage Mr. Rousseau to come, because we don't want to have to summon him.
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- 12:52:06 p.m.
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[Inaudible—Editor] could write back to them, and just let them know that's our expectation for Wednesday. If not, we will have to summons him, and I really don't want to have to do that. I wonder if we could get the support of the committee on that.
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- 12:54:38 p.m.
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Thank you, Mr. Chair.
I thank the committee members, and I apologize to the witnesses.
I wonder if I could go to witness Autor and then witness Janssen. If we run out of time, if either of those witnesses would like to respond to the committee in writing, that would be great.
My question is around a federal advisory council that was proposed by past witnesses. I wonder, Mr. Autor, if you could talk about the top three topics that you think should be considered in a federal advisory council, and then Ms. Janssen could respond to the same question.
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- 12:56:42 p.m.
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Thank you so much. I'm so interested in this appropriation of expertise and creativity without compensation.
Ms. Janssen, do you have three topics that you would want to have considered?
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