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House Committee

44th Parl. 1st Sess.
September 27, 2023
The Chair (Mr. Ron McKinnon (Coquitlam—Port Coquitlam, Lib.))
  • 04:29:44 p.m.
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I call this meeting to order. Yes, Mr. Julian.
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Mr. Peter Julian (New Westminster—Burnaby, NDP)
  • 04:29:47 p.m.
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I have a point of order, Mr. Chair. To start, it's great to see everybody again, as well as the new members of our committee. As you know, we've gone through a number of bills. This is the first time we've dealt with such a constricted space for clause-by-clause. I want to formally raise that when we do clause-by-clause, we take it very seriously. We deal with amendments, with the bill itself, with justifications and with the actual vote. Having such a constricted space makes that impossible. I don't want to push over into Madame Michaud's space. I really believe that for subsequent meetings, we need to have a space that is large enough for us to properly do our work.
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The Chair
  • 04:30:30 p.m.
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I appreciate and acknowledge those remarks. We've actually abbreviated the witness table here to give you more room, and they could, conceivably, move down more if you need more space. I take your point, though, so we will ask the clerk to see if we can address this problem going forward. Mr. Shipley, you can go ahead on a point of order.
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Mr. Doug Shipley (Barrie—Springwater—Oro-Medonte, CPC)
  • 04:30:50 p.m.
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Just to show how great this committee is going to work this time to get a lot of good work done, I'm going to agree with my friend from the NDP. This is not what we're used to having. I have three binders here. There's no way I'm going to be able to open them all. I'm going to agree with my friend down at the end that if something could be done for the next meeting, it would be nice and we'd all probably appreciate it. Thank you for bringing that up.
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The Chair
  • 04:31:09 p.m.
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The usually neutral chair also agrees. Mr. Motz, go ahead, please.
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Mr. Glen Motz (Medicine Hat—Cardston—Warner, CPC)
  • 04:31:13 p.m.
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I would just add to that. For today's meeting, I would invite Mr. Julian to maybe take up space in the back somewhere if he needs more room. I just want to help you out. Some hon. members: Oh, oh!
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The Chair
  • 04:31:31 p.m.
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The generosity of this committee knows no bounds. Thank you, Mr. Julian and others, for intervening. We will do what we can. When I came into this room, I found it was very foreshortened. It's very strange. We're used to having a lot more room to spread out and wave our hands and stuff. Anyway, we shall continue with convening the meeting. Welcome to meeting number 73 of the House of Commons Standing Committee on Public Safety and National Security. We will start by acknowledging that we are meeting on the traditional unceded territory of the Algonquin people. Today's meeting is taking place in a hybrid format, pursuant to the House order of June 23, 2022. Therefore, members are attending in person in the room and remotely by using the Zoom application. I'm going to skip over some of this because we've all heard it before. I remind members that all comments should be addressed through the chair. Welcome to all the new people on the committee. I would like to thank all the people who are no longer on the committee for their service. This leaves us an opening for the Conservative vice-chair. We need to proceed to electing the Conservative vice-chair. Mr. Shipley, do you wish to speak before that?
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Mr. Doug Shipley
  • 04:32:51 p.m.
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No, but I will just after, briefly.
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The Chair
  • 04:32:53 p.m.
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Campaigning is allowed.
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Mr. Doug Shipley
  • 04:32:57 p.m.
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No, I'm good. I hope I don't need to campaign much.
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The Chair
  • 04:32:57 p.m.
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I'll pass it over to our esteemed clerk, and he will conduct the vote.
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The Clerk of the Committee (Mr. Simon Larouche)
  • 04:33:02 p.m.
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Pursuant to Standing Order 106(2), the first vice-chair must be a member of the official opposition. I am now prepared to receive motions for the first vice-chair. Yes, Mr. Lloyd.
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Mr. Dane Lloyd (Sturgeon River—Parkland, CPC)
  • 04:33:26 p.m.
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I nominate Doug Shipley.
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The Clerk
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It has been moved by Mr. Lloyd that Doug Shipley be elected first vice-chair of the committee. Are there any other motions? Yes, Mr. Julian.
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Mr. Peter Julian
  • 04:33:39 p.m.
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I would like to second the nomination of Doug Shipley.
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The Clerk
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Are there any other motions? I don't see any. Is it the pleasure of the committee to adopt the motion? (Motion agreed to) The Clerk: Mr. Doug Shipley is duly elected first vice-chair of the committee. Some hon. members: Hear, hear!
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The Chair
  • 04:34:06 p.m.
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Welcome to our new vice-chair, and be careful what you ask for. Do you wish to speak?
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Mr. Doug Shipley
  • 04:34:12 p.m.
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Yes, I'll speak very briefly, but not really about that. You know I'm not usually one to speak and waste a lot of time, so I will just say thank you to everyone. Thank you for nominating me. I would like to publicly thank our past vice-chair, Raquel Dancho, who is going to be leaving, obviously. Tomorrow is her last day for a while. It's no secret anymore as to why she's heading out. I want to wish her the best of luck with her future endeavour of having a plus-one in the family. Actually, I don't know; it could be plus-two or plus-three. Who knows? She never told me. Maybe she won't be happy with what I just said. I want to congratulate her and wish her the best of luck while she's gone, and to thank her for all the great work she did here and for her mentorship. I hope we'll do as good a job in her absence.
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The Chair
  • 04:34:56 p.m.
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Thank you. Members, your subcommittee met on Monday to consider the business of the committee and agreed on a number of items. You've all received by email a copy of the fifth report of the subcommittee on agenda and procedure. Does the committee wish to adopt the report? I do have a copy if you need me to read it.
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Mr. Doug Shipley
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Can we speak to the report?
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