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House Hansard - 273

44th Parl. 1st Sess.
February 1, 2024 10:00AM
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Carol Hughes)
  • Feb/1/24 3:24:38 p.m.
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Order. I would ask the Sergeant-at-Arms to quell the noise that is in the hallway. The hon. member for Kings—Hants may continue.
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Context: House Hansard - 273 - Feb/1/24
The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Carol Hughes)
  • Feb/1/24 3:39:52 p.m.
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I want to remind members that, if they want to have conversations, they should take them outside. The hon. member for Renfrew—Nipissing—Pembroke.
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Context: House Hansard - 273 - Feb/1/24
The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Carol Hughes)
  • Feb/1/24 3:50:59 p.m.
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I am not sure what is going on here, but there seem to be more than a couple of people wanting to chime in on this response or make comments. I would just ask them to please hold off. The hon. member for Renfrew—Nipissing—Pembroke.
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Context: House Hansard - 273 - Feb/1/24
The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Carol Hughes)
  • Feb/1/24 3:52:15 p.m.
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I have to allow for other questions. The hon. member for Mirabel.
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Context: House Hansard - 273 - Feb/1/24
The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Carol Hughes)
  • Feb/1/24 3:52:51 p.m.
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I just want to remind members, if they want to have cross-conversations, to please take it outside. I am sure that when they are standing and answering questions or delivering their speeches, they do not appreciate when other people are interrupting them. I would ask all members to please be respectful. The hon. member for Mirabel.
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Context: House Hansard - 273 - Feb/1/24
The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Carol Hughes)
  • Feb/1/24 4:06:14 p.m.
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The hon. member for Salaberry—Suroît on a point of order.
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Context: House Hansard - 273 - Feb/1/24
The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Carol Hughes)
  • Feb/1/24 4:07:30 p.m.
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I will consult Hansard to see what was said. The Chair will ask for an apology if necessary after watching what happened during question period. Questions and comments, the hon. Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons.
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Context: House Hansard - 273 - Feb/1/24
The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Carol Hughes)
  • Feb/1/24 4:13:15 p.m.
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Order. I want to remind members if they do not have the floor or if they want to have conversations, to please step out. It was not just one individual, but that member was maybe the loudest. The hon. parliamentary secretary.
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Context: House Hansard - 273 - Feb/1/24
The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Carol Hughes)
  • Feb/1/24 4:39:33 p.m.
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The hon. member can maybe add to his next answer. The hon. member for Saanich—Gulf Islands.
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Context: House Hansard - 273 - Feb/1/24
The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Carol Hughes)
  • Feb/1/24 4:43:20 p.m.
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It is my duty pursuant to Standing Order 38 to inform the House that the questions to be raised tonight at the time of adjournment are as follows: the hon. member for Calgary Nose Hill, Carbon Pricing; the hon. member for Saanich—Gulf Islands, Natural Resources.
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Context: House Hansard - 273 - Feb/1/24
The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Carol Hughes)
  • Feb/1/24 4:46:07 p.m.
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There seem to be some members trying to ask questions. I would ask them to wait until the appropriate time to do that. The hon. member for Northumberland—Peterborough South has the floor.
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Context: House Hansard - 273 - Feb/1/24
The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Carol Hughes)
  • Feb/1/24 4:55:54 p.m.
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I would remind the hon. member that he is to address questions and comments through the Chair. The hon. member for Berthier—Maskinongé.
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Carol Hughes)
  • Feb/1/24 5:14:44 p.m.
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It being 5:15 p.m., it is my duty to interrupt the proceedings and put forthwith every question necessary to dispose of the business of supply. The question is on the motion. If a member participating in person wishes that the motion be carried or carried on division, or if a member of a recognized party participating in person wishes to request a recorded division, I would invite them to rise and indicate it to the Chair.
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Carol Hughes)
  • Feb/1/24 5:15:44 p.m.
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Pursuant to Standing Order 45, the recorded division stands deferred until Monday, February 5, at the expiry of the time provided for Oral Questions.
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Context: House Hansard - 273 - Feb/1/24
The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Carol Hughes)
The Chair is now ready to rule on the point of order raised on October 24, 2023, by the parliamentary secretary to the government House Leader concerning Bill C-353, an act to provide for the imposition of restrictive measures against foreign hostage takers and those who practice arbitrary detention in state-to-state relations and to make related amendments to the Proceeds of Crime (Money Laundering) and Terrorist Financing Act and the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act, standing in the name of the member for Thornhill. In a statement concerning private members’ business on October 19, 2023, the Chair invited members to make arguments regarding the need for this bill to be accompanied by a royal recommendation. In his intervention, the parliamentary secretary stated that the bill would grant a monetary award to an individual who provides information that assists the Government of Canada to secure the release of Canadian nationals and eligible protected persons who are held hostage or arbitrarily detained in state-to-state relations outside Canada. He therefore concluded that this would constitute a new and distinct charge to the consolidated revenue fund. The Chair has examined Bill C‑353 and has noted certain elements concerning the requirement of a royal recommendation. Page 835 of House of Commons Procedure and Practice, third edition, states, “[u]nder the Canadian system of government, the Crown alone initiates all public expenditure and Parliament may authorize only spending which has been recommended by the Governor General.” In addition to the pecuniary reward provided for in clause 21, the bill also seeks, in clause 10, to allow a minister to make withdrawals from the proceeds account in order to provide hostages or detained individuals or, if deceased, their estates or successions with financial compensation. The proposed plans to offer monetary rewards and to provide monetary compensations entail new and distinct charges against the consolidated revenue fund, which would constitute an infringement of the financial initiative of the Crown. Accordingly, Bill C-353 must be accompanied by a royal recommendation. Consequently, the Chair will decline to put the question at the third reading stage of the bill in its present form unless a royal recommendation is received. When this item is next before the House, the debate will continue on the motion for second reading of the bill, and the question will be put to the House at the end of that debate. I thank all members for their attention.
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Context: House Hansard - 273 - Feb/1/24
The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Carol Hughes)
The Chair is also ready to rule on the point of order raised on October 24, 2023, by the Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons concerning Bill C-356, An Act respecting payments by Canada and requirements in respect of housing and to amend certain other Acts, standing in the name of the member for Carleton. On October 19, 2023, the Chair had also raised issues with this bill and invited members to make arguments on its need for it to be accompanied by a royal recommendation. In raising his point of order, the parliamentary secretary argued that the bill would infringe on the Crown’s financial prerogative by repurposing $100 million from the housing accelerator fund and by implementing a 100% GST rebate on new residential rental property for which the average rent payable is below the market rate. Page 838 of House of Commons Procedure and Practice, third edition, states: A royal recommendation not only fixes the allowable charge, but also its objects, purposes, conditions and qualifications. For this reason, a royal recommendation is required not only in the case where money is being appropriated, but also in the case where the authorization to spend for a specific purpose is significantly altered. Without a royal recommendation, a bill that either increases the amount of an appropriation or extends its objects, purposes, conditions and qualifications is inadmissible on the grounds that it infringes on the Crown’s financial initiative. Following a careful review of Bill C‑356, the Chair is preoccupied with some elements that would cause a withdrawal from the public treasury for new and distinct purposes. The bill seeks, among other considerations, to authorize a minister to disburse up to $100 million to municipalities that surpass identified housing targets. This amount would be withdrawn directly from the consolidated revenue fund, although the bill requires a minister to table a plan to reallocate funds from the housing accelerator fund program to offset that amount. Moreover, the bill also proposes certain circumstances for which a 100% GST rebate on new residential rental property may be paid out. The aforementioned elements would cause new and distinct charges against the consolidated revenue fund, thus constituting an infringement on the financial initiative of the Crown. Accordingly, Bill C-356 must be accompanied by a royal recommendation, and without one, the Chair will not put the question at the third reading stage of the bill in its present form. When this item is next before the House, the debate will continue on the motion for second reading of the bill and the question will be put to the House at the end of the debate. I thank all members for their attention.
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Carol Hughes)
  • Feb/1/24 5:23:09 p.m.
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Is that agreed? Some hon. members: Agreed.
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