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House Hansard - 235

44th Parl. 1st Sess.
October 19, 2023 10:00AM
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The Speaker
  • Oct/19/23 2:45:37 p.m.
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I would ask the member for Dufferin—Caledon, who just asked a question, to please let the parliamentary secretary respond to his question. The hon. parliamentary secretary, from the top, please.
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The Speaker
  • Oct/19/23 3:17:26 p.m.
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The hon. member for La Pointe‑de‑l'Île is rising on a point of order.
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The Speaker
  • Oct/19/23 3:19:48 p.m.
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All those opposed to the hon. member's moving the motion will please say nay. Some hon. members: Nay.
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The Speaker
  • Oct/19/23 3:20:34 p.m.
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The hon. member for Lanark—Frontenac—Kingston on a point of order.
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The Speaker
  • Oct/19/23 3:21:03 p.m.
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I thank the hon. member for raising this point, but there was a unanimous consent request and a member clearly said no. This reminds me of how important it is for all House leaders and whips to coordinate when a request for unanimous consent is made, to ensure that there is in fact unanimous consent. A number of Speakers have already ruled on the matter and offered members some sound advice, namely that when they say there is unanimous consent, they should make sure there really is unanimous consent, because it is important not to waste the House's time. The hon. member for New Westminster—Burnaby on a point of order.
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The Speaker
  • Oct/19/23 3:22:20 p.m.
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I concur with the sentiment behind that idea. It is very important for all of the parties to work together, behind the scenes, if possible, on unanimous consent requests. The hon. member for Mégantic—L'Érable for the Thursday question. This being my first Thursday question as Speaker, I must say that I am eager to hear it.
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The Speaker
  • Oct/19/23 3:23:57 p.m.
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I congratulate the member for Mégantic—L'Érable on meeting my expectations for my first Thursday question. The hon. Leader of the Government in the House of Commons.
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The Speaker
  • Oct/19/23 3:26:00 p.m.
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I thank the hon. member for raising that issue. In fact, before the hon. member took his feet, I had actually signalled to the Sergeant-at-Arms to ask members outside to keep the conversation low.
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The Speaker
I am now ready to rule on the point of order raised on Thursday, September 21, by the member for Bay of Quinte concerning Bill C-339 and Bill C-56. Bill C-339, an act to amend the Competition Act (efficiencies defence), standing in the name of the member for Bay of Quinte, received first reading on June 8 and was added to the order of precedence on September 20. Bill C-56, an act to amend the Excise Tax Act and the Competition Act, received first reading on Thursday, September 21, and is currently being debated in the House at second reading. In his intervention, the member for Bay of Quinte noted that the government had presented a bill which contains the same provisions as his private member's bill. The member sought assurance from the Chair that, if required, he would have recourse to replace his bill with another item according to the provisions of the Standing Orders. The parliamentary secretary to the government House leader countered that it would be premature to consider the matter until the Subcommittee on Private Members’ Business and the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs had completed their work pursuant to Standing Order 91.1 and presented a report to the House. Bill C‑339 contains only two clauses, which are identical to clauses 9 and 10 of Bill C‑56. Bill C-339 seeks to repeal the provision of the Competition Act setting out the “efficiencies defence”, which prevents the Competition Tribunal from making an order if it finds that the likely gains in efficiency will be greater than the effects of any lessening of competition resulting from a merger. Bill C-56 aims to repeal the exception brought about by mergers involving efficiency gains, while also establishing a framework to conduct an inquiry, permitting the Competition Tribunal to make certain orders, as well as amending the Excise Tax Act. It is my understanding that the Subcommittee on Private Members’ Business held a meeting on Thursday, October 5, to determine whether the bills added to the order of precedence on September 20 should remain votable or not. While the subcommittee and the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs have not yet made a final recommendation to the House concerning Bill C-339, the official process has not yet run its course. It would therefore be premature for the Chair to make any determination on this matter at this time. There is an opportunity to resolve the concern raised through the Subcommittee on Private Members' Business and the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs, which are the designated bodies for considering items added to the order of precedence. I trust that the usual process will be followed in accordance with the rules and practices of the House. If a procedural issue remains after that process is complete, the Chair is open to considering the matter. I thank all members for their patience and attention.
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Context: House Hansard - 235 - Oct/19/23
The Speaker
The Chair would also like to make a statement on the management of Private Members' Business. The consideration of legislative measures involves certain procedural issues of a constitutional nature that impose constraints that the Speaker and the members must address. As a consequence, every time the order of precedence is replenished, the Chair reviews the bills added to draw the House's attention to those that appear, at first glance, to infringe the financial prerogative of the Crown. This enables members to rise in a timely manner to present their views on whether these bills require a royal recommendation. Accordingly, following the addition of 15 new items to the order of precedence on Wednesday, September 20, two items concern the Chair. First, Bill C-353, an act to provide for the imposition of restrictive measures against foreign hostage takers and those who practice arbitrary detention in state-to-state relations and to make related amendments to the Proceeds of Crime (Money Laundering) and Terrorist Financing Act and the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act, standing in the name of the member for Thornhill. Also: Bill C‑356, an act respecting payments by Canada and requirements in respect of housing and to amend certain other acts, standing in the name of the member for Carleton. In the Chair's view, these bills may require a royal recommendation. Members who wish to make arguments regarding the need for bills C‑353 and C‑356 to be accompanied by a royal recommendation should do so as early as possible. I thank all members for their attention.
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The Speaker
  • Oct/19/23 5:44:23 p.m.
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I would like to remind the member for Dufferin—Caledon as well as all members to be judicious in their use of language and remember that we should use language that is fitting to this chamber. I am certain the member could find other ways to describe what is going on.
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The Speaker
  • Oct/19/23 5:45:22 p.m.
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It being 5:45 p.m., pursuant to an order made earlier today, it is my duty to interrupt the proceedings and put forthwith every question necessary to dispose of the second reading stage of the bill now before the House. The question is on the motion. If a member participating in person wishes that the motion be carried or carried on division, or if a member of a recognized party participating in person wishes to request a recorded division, I would invite them to rise and indicate it to the Chair.
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The Speaker
  • Oct/19/23 5:46:47 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-50 
Pursuant to Standing Order 45, the recorded division stands deferred until Monday, October 23, at the expiry of the time provided for Oral Questions.
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The Speaker
  • Oct/19/23 5:47:20 p.m.
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Does the hon. parliamentary secretary have unanimous consent to see the clock at 6 p.m.? Some hon. members: Agreed. The Speaker: It being 6 p.m., the House will now proceed to the consideration of Private Members' Business as listed on today's Order Paper.
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The Speaker
  • Oct/19/23 5:56:04 p.m.
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Before we resume debate, I want to let the member for Saint-Hyacinthe—Bagot know that I am proud to be his MP. The hon. member for Port Moody—Coquitlam.
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The Speaker
The hon. member for York—Simcoe for his right of reply.
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The Speaker
  • Oct/19/23 6:32:22 p.m.
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The question is on the motion. If a member participating in person wishes that the motion be carried or carried on division, or if a member of a recognized party participating in person wishes to request a recorded division, I would invite them to rise and indicate it to the Chair.
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The Speaker
  • Oct/19/23 6:33:13 p.m.
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Pursuant to Standing Order 98, the division stands deferred until Wednesday, October 25, at the expiry of the time provided for Oral Questions.
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The Speaker
  • Oct/19/23 6:52:09 p.m.
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I know the member is relatively new to politics, but he is still an experienced member. I hope he could rephrase his question.
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The Speaker
  • Oct/19/23 6:58:49 p.m.
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I would like to take this opportunity to remind members that when comments are made, they are addressed through the Chair. It was just a small comment the member made. The hon. member for Skeena—Bulkley Valley.
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