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House Hansard - 206

44th Parl. 1st Sess.
June 5, 2023 11:00AM
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Carol Hughes)
  • Jun/5/23 11:35:12 a.m.
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I want to remind the hon. member that he is to address questions and comments through the Chair and not directly to the member. The hon. member for Longueuil—Saint-Hubert.
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Carol Hughes)
  • Jun/5/23 11:57:15 a.m.
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I apologize for interrupting the member, but I would like to point out to him that his time is up. I must now give the floor to the next speaker. The hon. member for Edmonton Strathcona.
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Carol Hughes)
  • Jun/5/23 12:07:02 p.m.
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I will double-check. And the count having been taken:
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Carol Hughes)
  • Jun/5/23 12:07:31 p.m.
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We do have quorum. The hon. member for Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan.
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Carol Hughes)
  • Jun/5/23 12:11:29 p.m.
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The member for Northumberland—Peterborough South has the floor for his right to reply.
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Carol Hughes)
  • Jun/5/23 12:15:46 p.m.
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The question is on the motion. If a member of a recognized party present in the House wishes that the motion be carried or carried on division or wishes to request a recorded division, I would invite them to rise and indicate it to the Chair.
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Carol Hughes)
Pursuant to order made on June 23, 2022, the division stands deferred until Wednesday, June 7, at the expiry of the time provided for Oral Questions.
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Carol Hughes)
  • Jun/5/23 12:27:35 p.m.
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I want to indicate that I get the hon. member's point and I will take the information under advisement. I want to remind members who are getting up on this point of order that our precedents are clear that it is not for the Chair to rule on the content of the responses to written questions. Indeed, in a ruling on a similar matter, on April 25, 2022, at page 4310 of the Debates, the Chair stated: The Chair is of the view that ruling on the completeness of responses to written questions is tantamount to ruling on their content, and that is not the Chair's role. Therefore, although the hon. member is mentioning that the information was different, he may not like the information that he received, but he did receive a response. I will go to another point of order if the hon. member is finished. If he wants to continue on with respect to the information he just provided, as I indicated, he may not have been satisfied with the information he received, but it is very clear that it is not the responsibility of the Chair to rule on the information he has received. I would ask the hon. member to wrap it up, please, because points of order and questions of privilege need to be succinct and to the point and should not drag on. The hon. member for Battle River—Crowfoot.
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Carol Hughes)
  • Jun/5/23 12:31:26 p.m.
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I am satisfied with the information that I have received. Does the hon. member for South Surrey—White Rock also want to weigh in on this point of order?
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Carol Hughes)
  • Jun/5/23 12:31:39 p.m.
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The hon. member is rising on a different point of order. Does the hon. member for Calgary Nose Hill want to add to this point of order?
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Carol Hughes)
  • Jun/5/23 12:32:23 p.m.
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Though I appreciate the additional information, I am not sure whether the government was indicating that it would not respond at all, so I will take the information under advisement. Is the hon. member for Barrie—Innisfil rising on this point of order?
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Carol Hughes)
  • Jun/5/23 12:34:11 p.m.
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I will certainly consider that. The hon. member for Cariboo—Prince George is also rising. Is it on this point of order?
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Carol Hughes)
  • Jun/5/23 12:34:23 p.m.
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Okay. It is on a separate point of order. I will indicate that I have heard enough on this particular matter. I will take the information under advisement and will come back to members if required. There are quite a few points of order. Other members had their hands up before the hon. member for Cariboo—Prince George, so I am going to the member for South Surrey—White Rock.
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Carol Hughes)
  • Jun/5/23 12:36:09 p.m.
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I remind the hon. member not to go into debate and to go into the issue itself, because what the hon. member is bringing up is debate. If she can get to the exact point, that would be better.
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Carol Hughes)
  • Jun/5/23 12:36:46 p.m.
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This is going into debate. The hon. member— Hon. Kerry-Lynn Findlay: Madam Speaker— The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Carol Hughes): I have the floor right now. I want to remind the hon. member that what she is providing right now is more debate. The hon. member and all members in this House are well aware that votes can be had at any time and that we need to be ready to respond if required. If the hon. member wants to discuss the technical issues that were experienced, based on the report of the Speaker I am willing to entertain that. I am not willing to entertain debate on the issue. The hon. official opposition whip.
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Carol Hughes)
  • Jun/5/23 12:39:36 p.m.
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I appreciate that members are trying to indicate that this is debate, but I am the Chair and am well able to decide whether it is debate or not. I want to advise the member that no question of privilege was raised. I have no way of knowing whether someone is contemplating one. It is not something we will need to come back to the House on. As for voting, as indicated, every member in the House has a responsibility to ensure that they have the necessary tools, whether it is their headphones, their phone or their computer. There are already procedures in place, which are spelled out, for what to do if they are not able to vote. As indicated, the technical team looked on our side, the side of the House, to see if there were issues technically and none were seen. I want to remind members that they all have responsibilities. We know it is a privilege to go into our ridings when the House is sitting, and we need to make sure we have the tools with us to react immediately, as required. The hon. official opposition House leader has a point of order.
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Carol Hughes)
  • Jun/5/23 12:41:58 p.m.
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Order. If individuals want to have conversations, they need to take them outside. Individuals can approach me and try to have a conversation quietly here, but they cannot have one across to each other while I am trying to listen to a point of order before the House. The hon. official opposition House leader.
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Carol Hughes)
  • Jun/5/23 12:45:14 p.m.
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I think I have heard quite a bit on this. The hon. opposition House leader has been in the Speaker position before, so I know he is well aware of the following: In dealing with unparliamentary language, the Speaker takes into account the tone, manner and intention of the Member speaking, the person to whom the words at issue were directed, the degree of provocation, and most important, whether or not the remarks created disorder in the Chamber. Thus, language deemed unparliamentary one day may not necessarily be deemed unparliamentary on another day. The codification of unparliamentary language has proven impractical as it is the context in which words or phrases are used that the Chair must consider when deciding whether or not they should be withdrawn. Given the fact that the hon. Speaker has already ruled on this, it is not a matter that I am prepared to continue to entertain.
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Carol Hughes)
  • Jun/5/23 12:46:24 p.m.
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I would ask the hon. member to wrap it up in one minute.
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Carol Hughes)
  • Jun/5/23 12:46:46 p.m.
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This is becoming a point of debate, so I am going to shut it down. The Speaker has already ruled on this. I will certainly take the additional information the member has provided under advisement, and we will come back to the House if need be. Mr. Mark Gerretsen: Madam Speaker, on that point of order— The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Carol Hughes): I have just closed down this particular point of order by the House leader of the official opposition. I have already stated that. If the hon. parliamentary secretary has a different point of order, I will come back to him, because somebody else has one. The hon. parliamentary secretary.
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