44th Parl. 1st Sess.
April 24, 2023 11:00AM
- Apr/24/23 2:23:26 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, the meeting that took place was between public servants in a government building. It was not with the Prime Minister.
However, I could understand that the Leader of the Opposition, as usual, is looking to swing a wide stick and does not seem to care what he hits. There is a constant array of attacks and mis-characterization of information. His interest again and again is to disrupt and be partisan rather than provide productive solutions to the issues that face this country right now.
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- Apr/24/23 2:24:35 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, sometimes I stay up at night, and I wonder how the Leader of the Opposition got to the position of recommending to people to opt out of inflation by recommending cryptocurrency as a solution, and now I understand why. Listening—
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- Apr/24/23 2:25:06 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, we listen to the convoluted mess the Leader of the Opposition tossed out there, and it is completely nonsensical. I will just take one point.
Yes, the Prime Minister, as I have said on many occasions, took a vacation with his family over Christmas and stayed at a friend's house. By the way, that friend has been his family friend his entire life. He had been at that residence when he was one year old. The mis-characterizations continue.
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- Apr/24/23 2:26:15 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, clearly, the member opposite desperately wants to create a link between the Trudeau Foundation and the Prime Minister.
There is no link. There has been no direct or indirect link between the foundation and the Prime Minister for over 10 years. That is clear.
Unfortunately, the leader of the official opposition cares more about playing partisan games and sowing division than he does about the facts.
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- Apr/24/23 2:27:28 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, an independent meeting took place between public servants and the foundation. The Prime Minister had no stake in the meeting and no information about it.
I totally reject the premise of that question. It is absolutely ridiculous to claim that China or any other country has influence over our government or any other member. All members of the House are loyal to Canada. That is clear.
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- Apr/24/23 2:28:48 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, as the Prime Minister has repeatedly stated, there is no direct or indirect relationship with the Trudeau Foundation. That is clear. I can repeat it, again and again.
We need to rely on facts in the House. A story or a novel is something entirely different. Perhaps there is another career awaiting members on the other side; maybe they can be novelists. Facts, however, are something else altogether.
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- Apr/24/23 2:40:15 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, that is a good conspiracy theory. It is interesting, but not factual. It has nothing to do with reality.
I am not sure how many times we have to say this, but it is absolutely clear that there have not been any ties between the foundation and the Prime Minister for more than 10 years. I understand that the Bloc Québécois really wants there to be a connection for partisan reasons, but no such connection exists.
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- Apr/24/23 2:41:27 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, David Johnston, the former governor general who was appointed by Stephen Harper, is responsible for looking into the matter at this time.
I hope that the member opposite is not calling into question Mr. Johnston's character and who he is as a person. He is responsible for the matter. It is of the utmost importance, not just for the House of Commons but also for Canadians across the country, that this investigation be independent.
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- Apr/24/23 2:42:46 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, Mr. Johnston is responsible for that.
I will state clearly that I fully understand that the Bloc Québécois wants to make a connection, but there is no connection to be made. I find their efforts odd, given that the Bloc Québécois knows full well that Parliament's institutions are the best in the world. They are very accountable, and they oversee our system and the integrity of our system.
The Bloc Québécois claims there is a problem because the Auditor General is saying there is no need for an investigation.
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- Apr/24/23 2:52:25 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, the meeting in question was between public servants and the foundation. It did not involve the Prime Minister. It was in a building, yes, and there are many meetings that take place all over Parliament Hill.
This is what is going on: Again and again, the Conservatives are looking for any way they can to connect this when no such connection exists. I made it clear that no such connection exists. I will repeat that, day in and day out, and they will continue to try it with us.
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- Apr/24/23 2:53:42 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I am not sure which building the member is in. Maybe he is in the Confederation Building, and now I know that he is aware of every meeting that takes place in the Confederation Building.
Come on. Let us be realistic here. The actual issue is that they are attempting to be—
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- Apr/24/23 2:54:24 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, with respect to the underlying assumption that comes again and again, let us be very clear about what the Conservatives are trying to do. They are trying to paint a picture of the government, and it is offensive to suggest that any Canadian government would allow a foreign government to interfere or help make decisions. It is absolutely ridiculous. It attacks one of the fundamental tenets of our democracy, which each of us has here, and that is to protect our institutions.
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- Apr/24/23 2:56:44 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, let us talk about the walls that protect our institutions. Let us talk about the CBC and Radio-Canada. Let us talk about the fact that the Leader of the Opposition wants to work with large tech giants to destroy the walls that protect those foundations.
Let us talk about the Bank of Canada, which he wishes to reach into to change its direction. This is the Bank of Canada, something that has been completely independent while protecting monetary and fiscal policy.
I wonder if, like when he was giving advice about cryptocurrency, he would apply that advice to the Bank of Canada and make the Bank of Canada listen to his political direction. It would have the same disastrous effect on all Canadians as it did on those who listened to his advice on cryptocurrency.
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