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House Hansard - 174

44th Parl. 1st Sess.
March 28, 2023 10:00AM
  • Mar/28/23 10:01:41 a.m.
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I have the honour to lay upon the table the report of a Canadian parliamentary delegation concerning its visit to the Republic of Malta and the Republic of Albania from October 10 to 14, 2022.
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  • Mar/28/23 10:04:40 a.m.
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All those opposed to the hon. member's moving the motion will please say nay. It is agreed. The House has heard the terms of the motion. All those opposed to the motion will please say nay.
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  • Mar/28/23 2:34:31 p.m.
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Order. I am going to interrupt the hon. minister. The hon. minister can start from the top. I missed the beginning.
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  • Mar/28/23 2:36:56 p.m.
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Order. From the top, please.
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  • Mar/28/23 3:07:28 p.m.
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The hon. parliamentary secretary.
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  • Mar/28/23 3:10:03 p.m.
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The hon. Minister of Labour.
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  • Mar/28/23 3:13:28 p.m.
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I wish to draw the attention of members to the presence in the gallery of Ms. Margareta Cederfelt, President of the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe Parliamentary Assembly. Some hon. members: Hear, hear!
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All those opposed to the hon. member's moving the motion will please say nay. It is agreed. The House has heard the terms of the motion. All those opposed to the motion will please say nay.
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  • Mar/28/23 3:15:52 p.m.
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The hon. member for Louis-Saint-Laurent on a point of order.
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  • Mar/28/23 3:16:12 p.m.
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Does the hon. member have unanimous consent? Some hon. members: No.
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  • Mar/28/23 3:16:12 p.m.
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The Chair would like to make a statement regarding the period for questions and comments following speeches in the House. A series of points of order were raised on this topic on Wednesday, March 22, 2023. That day, some members immediately left the chamber after completing their speeches and were therefore unable to take part in the period for questions and comments thereafter. The Chair thought it necessary to return to the House regarding this matter, given the numerous concerns expressed. The provisions in the Standing Orders governing the period for questions and comments were adopted by the House on November 29, 1982, following the recommendations of the third report of the Special Committee on Standing Orders and Procedure. They were further modified on February 18, 2005, becoming the current Standing Order 43. In its report, the special committee expressed its intention that questions and comments exchanges be “short and sharp”. Our current practices have maintained this spirit. The current iteration of Standing Order 43 includes references to both speeches and questions and comments periods. It shows those proceedings should be interpreted as complementary, as they enhance the qualities of each other. Setting aside time for questions and comments enriches debate and allows for a constructive exchange of views, instead of only a series of set speeches. With respect to the events of last Wednesday, the issue raises concerns on what becomes of the period for questions and comments when the member who just completed their speech is unavailable. This happens frequently when debate has been interrupted for another proceeding, resuming several hours or sometimes several days later. It is a well-established practice, in those cases, that the questions and comments period may only continue if the member having made the speech is present. This is the way my predecessors have consistently ruled. These were not, however, the circumstances that occurred last Wednesday. Instead, members were leaving immediately after the conclusion of their speech. Many members, as well as the Deputy Speaker, expressed some concern that this resulted in the questions and comments period not taking place. While this does not appear to have been a widespread practice in the past, it was something contemplated by one of my predecessors. On October 28, 1985, Speaker Bosley stated at page 8076 of the Debates: I said quite precisely to the House that when a normal period of interruptions such as a lunch period, overnight period or adjournment of the debate has caused a problem then it seemed to me to be unreasonable or to be against the spirit of what was intended by the Report to allow the question and comment period to continue in the unavoidable absence of the Member. If the...Member is interpreting from that that he thinks that I believe that the question and comment period can be obviated by a Member making a speech and leaving the chamber then he has not interpreted me correctly. Based on this, it is the expectation of the Chair that members having just completed a speech take part in the ensuing period for questions and comments. Furthermore, should a member making a speech not be available immediately thereafter, and while the content of the member’s speech is still fresh to all, the Chair shall still recognize other members wishing to ask questions or comment on the speech, for the duration of the prescribed period. The Chair invites the House leaders to discuss this matter further should they feel it necessary. Perhaps the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs may also want to study the matter and make recommendations back to the House. I thank members for their attention.
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  • Mar/28/23 3:58:23 p.m.
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I just want to interrupt the hon. member. I have been listening, and I am not even sure if the noise is coming from inside the chamber or from around the surrounding area. I would ask the Sergeant-at-Arms to take a walk in the hall outside to ask everyone to keep it down, and I will ask everyone who is in the chamber to sit down to listen to the hon. member for Red Deer—Lacombe. I am sure we all want to hear what he has to say. The hon. member for Red Deer—Lacombe has the floor.
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  • Mar/28/23 4:00:59 p.m.
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I am going to interrupt the hon. member again. Order. If I can have member's attention please. That is very good. The hon. member for Red Deer—Lacombe may continue.
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  • Mar/28/23 4:01:53 p.m.
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The hon. member has been very patient and good. He has two minutes and 19 seconds left, but in all fairness, I am going to arbitrarily make a decision. The hon. member will have five minutes remaining when he comes back if he wants to continue. It being 4 p.m., the House will now proceed to the consideration of Ways and Means Proceedings No. 10 concerning the budget presentation.
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  • Mar/28/23 4:31:57 p.m.
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Before we continue, I would like to remind members that our time is limited. I would ask everyone to be as concise as possible with their questions and their answers, so we can get as many questions as possible. The hon. member for Mirabel.
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  • Mar/28/23 4:42:55 p.m.
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Before moving to adjourn, I just want to remind the hon. members that I know sometimes they get carried away in their speeches, but there were some sarcastic calls at each other. I just want to make sure everybody respects each other. I want to remind members that when they are referring to another member, they must use their title rather than made-up names that are insulting. I do not want to hear any insulting language from either side. That is just some food for thought. I would like members to be judicious in their choice of words. Pursuant to Standing Order 83(2), the motion is deemed adopted and the House stands adjourned until tomorrow at 2 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1). (The House adjourned at 4:47 p.m.)
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