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House Hansard - 148

44th Parl. 1st Sess.
December 14, 2022 02:00PM
  • Dec/14/22 2:02:23 p.m.
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The hon. member for Timmins—James Bay will now lead us in the singing of the national anthem. [Members sang the national anthem]
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  • Dec/14/22 2:34:32 p.m.
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Order. I know everybody is excited that Christmas is coming. It is a week and a half or two weeks away. I would ask everybody to calm down and take a deep breath. The hon. member for Burnaby South.
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  • Dec/14/22 2:35:44 p.m.
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Order. The hon. member for Burnaby South. We will try one more time.
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  • Dec/14/22 2:53:41 p.m.
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The hon. member for Burnaby South.
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  • Dec/14/22 3:10:19 p.m.
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I am sorry. The odd heckle coming out is one thing, but when you are trying to drown someone out, that is really not polite and is not parliamentary. I would ask the right hon. Prime Minister to start from the top.
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  • Dec/14/22 3:11:14 p.m.
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The hon. member for Mégantic—L'Érable.
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  • Dec/14/22 3:12:28 p.m.
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The hon. member for West Vancouver—Sunshine Coast—Sea to Sky Country.
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  • Dec/14/22 3:16:52 p.m.
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All those opposed to the hon. member's moving the motion will please say nay. It is agreed. The House has heard the terms of the motion. All those opposed to the motion will please say nay.
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  • Dec/14/22 3:18:40 p.m.
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Pursuant to order made on Tuesday, December 13, the House will now proceed to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the motion to concur in the second report of the Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Development. Call in the members.
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  • Dec/14/22 3:32:05 p.m.
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Pursuant to order made on Thursday, June 23, the House will now proceed to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the motion at third reading stage of Bill C-18. The question is on the motion.
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  • Dec/14/22 3:56:54 p.m.
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There have been discussions among the representatives of the parties in the House, and I understand that we will now proceed to tributes to our late colleague, the Hon. Jim Carr. I recognize the right hon. Prime Minister.
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  • Dec/14/22 4:25:08 p.m.
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Hon. colleagues, it is with heavy hearts that we mark the passing of a great man and an exceptional parliamentarian, the Hon. Jim Carr. Musician, journalist, business leader and politician, Jim was a Renaissance man. He excelled at whatever he chose to do. Luckily for those of us here today and for Canada, he chose a life of public service. With intelligence, kindness and hard work, he committed to making the world a better place for the people of Winnipeg South Centre, Manitobans and all Canadians. His heart was as big as his beloved Prairies. Jim was a man of passion and action dedicated to making Canada a better country. He was an inspiration to us all. With his smile and his calm and gentle demeanor, he showed us not only how to do politics, but how to live life. When Jim had something to say, we all listened. He led by example, always ready to tackle the tough challenges of our time. He was a great communicator and a bridge-builder, not only between individuals but also between different interests and sectors. He always saw the big picture and kept his focus on what really mattered. He was a wonderful friend and colleague who will be greatly missed. I hope that in the midst of their grief, Jim's family finds comfort in knowing that his legacy will be deep and enduring in this place and across the country, this Canada that he so much loved.
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  • Dec/14/22 4:27:28 p.m.
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I invite the hon. members to stand and observe a moment of silence in honour of our dear colleague, the hon. Jim Carr. [A moment of silence observed]
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  • Dec/14/22 4:29:00 p.m.
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I am now ready to rule on the question of privilege raised on December 13, 2022, by the member for Haldimand—Norfolk concerning an accusation made by the Minister of Families, Children and Social Development. The member argued that the minister falsely accused her of having used an offensive word, specifically “anti-Semite”, in relation to another member. She emphatically denies having made such a statement and feels that the minister's accusation has damaged her reputation. She also asked for an apology. The Chair takes seriously all situations where the reputation of a member is at play. I understand how certain words or accusations can cause offence and the Chair does not doubt that the member from Haldimand—Norfolk felt that way. After this matter was first raised on December 8, I undertook to review the Debates and audio recordings, not having heard the alleged comment myself that day. The Chair can report that the word in question could not be heard through the audio. Since the alleged unparliamentary language could not be confirmed, the Chair is left with two versions of the same event and the impossible task to determine what was said. Faced with a similar situation, Speaker Milliken stated, on October 30, 2006, in a ruling found at page 4414 of the Debates: ...requesting an apology or a withdrawal—is predicated on a common agreement about what actually took place, either because the exchange appears in the official record or because both parties acknowledge that the exchange took place. In this case, the official record is not helpful and the Speaker is faced with a dispute, indeed a contradiction, about what actually happened. Further down, at page 4415 of the Debates, Speaker Milliken added, and I quote: In the case before the House now, the remarks may or may not have been said. However, it is not for the Speaker to decide where the truth lies. There is nothing in the parliamentary record that allows for the Chair to determine whether such a comment was made and by whom. The member for Haldimand—Norfolk has denied making this comment and her denial is on the record. It is not clear to the Chair, though, how this situation prevented the member from accomplishing her parliamentary work. Consequently, the Chair cannot find a prima facie case of privilege, and therefore cannot give the matter priority over all other proceedings. The Chair takes this opportunity, once again, to ask all members to conduct themselves in a dignified manner and to show continued respect for one another. All members need to be judicious in their choice of words, on and off the record. I thank all members for their attention.
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