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House Hansard - 85

44th Parl. 1st Sess.
June 9, 2022 10:00AM
Context: House Hansard - 85 - Jun/9/22
Mr. Don Davies
  • Jun/9/22 4:58:35 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-5 
Madam Speaker, I would answer that by approaching the latter part first. I had both the privilege and the trauma of suffering through the Harper government the whole time. I have been in this House for 14 years, and it was a major political issue the entire time of the Harper Conservatives to adopt this tough-on-crime approach, where they did bring in mandatory minimums. In fact, those are the mandatory minimums that are being struck down by the courts as being unconstitutional, because the Conservatives did not care about the law and they did not care about the Constitution; they cared about trying to look like they were tough on crime to the public. By the way, if those methods worked and were effective, I might support them, but they do not.
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Context: House Hansard - 85 - Jun/9/22
Mr. Michael Barrett
  • Jun/9/22 6:56:26 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-5 
Mr. Speaker, on a point of order. I know we cannot call for quorum based on the unconstitutional provisions of Motion No. 11 brought forward and adopted by the NDP-Liberals, but it is very important to note that the Constitution requires that we have quorum. In consideration of this bill, should it be challenged in court later, the House will not have done its work to ensure that quorum was in place for the debate of that bill. That speaks to the unconstitutionality of the motion that prevents us from doing that quorum call. There was a ruling from the Supreme Court in 1985 that section 133 of the Constitution Act, 1867 and section 23 of the Manitoba Act, 1870 respecting the use of English and French languages in the records and journals of the House of Parliament of Canada are mandatory. They must be obeyed. The House is the master of this place. However, it cannot change the Constitution when it sees fit unless bills are passed and unless the Constitution is cracked open for that purpose. It is very important that this is considered, and that it is noted for posterity, and that it is noted in Hansard. Should this bill be challenged in court, it is going to be a foundational piece of an argument against the constitutionality of this bill that it was debated without quorum as required by the Constitution of this country.
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Context: House Hansard - 85 - Jun/9/22
Mr. Philip Lawrence
  • Jun/9/22 9:50:24 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-21 
Madam Speaker, I rise on a point of order. Bill C-21 is being considered without quorum, and for Hansard it should be noted that a debate is happening contrary to the constitutional requirement that the House cannot depart from its own code of procedure when the procedure is entrenched in the Constitution of Canada.
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Context: House Hansard - 85 - Jun/9/22
Mr. Philip Lawrence
  • Jun/9/22 9:51:43 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-21 
Madam Speaker, I would say that the Constitution actually trumps the order of the Speaker, or of—
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