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House Hansard - 77

44th Parl. 1st Sess.
May 30, 2022 11:00AM
Context: House Hansard - 77 - May/31/22
Hon. Joyce Murray
  • May/31/22 12:11:17 a.m.
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Mr. Chair, as I mentioned, I will not prejudge the conclusion. We are still in the process of gathering data on ownership.
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Mr. Gord Johns
  • May/31/22 12:11:28 a.m.
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Mr. Chair, why are super trawlers given access to our exclusive economic zone when small independent owner-operators are shut down? In the Pacific, super trawlers had access to our Pacific north coast in 2021, when almost all of the small-boat salmon fleet was shut down. Maybe the minister can explain.
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Hon. Joyce Murray
  • May/31/22 12:11:47 a.m.
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Mr. Chair, the ownership structure has evolved over decades. Here on the west coast it has evolved differently than on the east coast. We are now taking a look at what the data is on who does own what, and we will be looking at—
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The Chair
  • May/31/22 12:12:10 a.m.
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The hon. member.
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Mr. Gord Johns
  • May/31/22 12:12:13 a.m.
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Mr. Chair, does the minister actually believe super trawlers should be able to process at sea instead of our Pacific exclusive economic zone? There is a current proposal right now to the department to allow this to happen. This would shutter shore processing plants and rendering facilities and actually impact communities, such as Ucluelet in my riding.
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Hon. Joyce Murray
  • May/31/22 12:12:36 a.m.
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Mr. Chair, as I said, we will not be making any changes without first understanding the lay of the land, and we appreciate the fisheries and oceans report on this matter.
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Mr. Gord Johns
  • May/31/22 12:12:50 a.m.
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Mr. Chair, I was just at French Creek Marina, which the minister knows quite well as she travels to Lasqueti Island. They are bursting at capacity. They cannot find enough slips for boats. It is impacting our economy, our culture and our access to food security. Will the minister meet with marinas like that and look at ways she can invest in infrastructure to support those working harbours?
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Hon. Joyce Murray
  • May/31/22 12:13:17 a.m.
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Mr. Chair, we have spent over $600 million, in addition to the annual funding for harbours, to do exactly that. I am not aware that French Creek harbour has made a request, but that individual case can be looked into.
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Mr. Gord Johns
  • May/31/22 12:13:34 a.m.
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Mr. Chair, we had the Hanjin Seattle, and we have seen the Zim Kingston. We have seen some marine debris spills on our coast. I have talked to the minister about creating the ecosystem service fee on trans cargo shipment units coming into Canada. Has she spoken to the transport minister about creating a fund that can go to coastal and indigenous communities to have a tactical response plan in place so we can tackle these issues and actually have funding in place and resources ready to go that are timely and immediate?
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Hon. Joyce Murray
  • May/31/22 12:14:00 a.m.
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Mr. Chair, I encourage the member to make a representation to the transport minister on any regulatory matter or change he is proposing.
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Mr. Gord Johns
  • May/31/22 12:14:14 a.m.
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Mr. Chair, other industries, such as forestry and agriculture, have also faced massive upheavals for the same reasons that fisheries are being forced to restructure, such as climate events and newly developed conservation policies, yet workers and owner-operators in these resource-adjacent industries have been heavily supported both federally and provincially with funding to withstand the transitions, retrain into other vocations and pay out to bridge to early retirement. Why are commercial fish harvesters being treated inequitably compared to workers in other impacted industries? There is a man in my riding, Leith Selvie, who is a commercial fisher in Parksville. He has not gotten any support since the government shut 60% of the fisheries on the north coast. Will the minister speak about bailing out these fishers and supporting them like other sectors?
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Hon. Joyce Murray
  • May/31/22 12:15:04 a.m.
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Mr. Chair, I do understand the difficulty when fisheries decline, and our job is to conserve the fishery so it can regrow in abundance and be available for those who depend on it.
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The Chair
  • May/31/22 12:15:18 a.m.
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That is all the time we have. It being 12:15 a.m., pursuant to an order made on Thursday, May 19, and Standing Order 81(4), all votes are deemed reported and the committee will now rise.
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The Deputy Speaker
  • May/31/22 12:15:47 a.m.
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The House stands adjourned until later this day at 10 a.m. pursuant to Standing Order 24(1). (The House adjourned at 12:15 a.m.)
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