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House Hansard - 72

44th Parl. 1st Sess.
May 16, 2022 11:00AM
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The Deputy Speaker
  • May/16/22 1:56:07 p.m.
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The hon. member for Winnipeg North.
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The Deputy Speaker
  • May/16/22 1:56:27 p.m.
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That is not a point of order. Questions and comments, the hon. member for Kitchener Centre.
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The Deputy Speaker
  • May/16/22 2:09:35 p.m.
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I want to remind folks, during Statements by Members, to keep conversations as low as they can so that people can get their statements out. The hon. member for Elgin—Middlesex—London.
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The Deputy Speaker
  • May/16/22 2:12:03 p.m.
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Again, I will remind folks to keep their conversations down. The hon. member for Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan.
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The Deputy Speaker
  • May/16/22 2:39:44 p.m.
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I want to remind folks that turning your mike on and trying to heckle online is not acceptable either. The hon. member for Longueuil—Saint-Hubert.
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The Deputy Speaker
  • May/16/22 2:50:44 p.m.
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Order. Hold on a second. All of us want to hear what is happening here on the precinct. The hon. minister.
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The Deputy Speaker
  • May/16/22 3:06:57 p.m.
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The hon. Minister of Immigration. We are having Internet problems with the hon. minister's connection. I think we have the minister back. The hon. Minister of Immigration.
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The Deputy Speaker
  • May/16/22 3:07:38 p.m.
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We are going to go to the hon. parliamentary secretary. The hon. parliamentary secretary.
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The Deputy Speaker
  • May/16/22 3:12:45 p.m.
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That is all the time we have for question period today. I think we have a couple of points of order. The hon. member for Selkirk—Interlake—Eastman.
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The Deputy Speaker
  • May/16/22 3:13:30 p.m.
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I believe the member for Waterloo has a comment on this.
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The Deputy Speaker
  • May/16/22 3:13:50 p.m.
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Order, please. There are standing orders and rules of the House. Members should not pass between the Chair and the speaker, and of course the mace as well. Let us all try to follow that practice. The hon. member for Longueuil—Saint-Hubert.
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The Deputy Speaker
  • May/16/22 3:14:40 p.m.
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I am already hearing some nays, so there were no discussions. The hon. member for New Westminster—Burnaby.
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The Deputy Speaker
  • May/16/22 3:15:26 p.m.
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All those opposed to the hon. member's moving the motion will please say nay. Hearing no dissenting voice, it is agreed. The House has heard the terms of the motion. All those opposed to the motion will please say nay.
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The Deputy Speaker
  • May/16/22 3:16:51 p.m.
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I want to make one comment on this before I recognize a few other people. Unanimous consent motions are being abused in the House of Commons. Those motions used to be before question period, and a number of years ago the House adopted the forum to use Statements by Members. I urge each and every member of the House of Commons to use Statements by Members to get their points across rather than using unanimous consent motions as they are being used today. I cannot stop it and it will continue to happen, I am sure, but I do hope we use them for the opportunity they actually are, which is to get the unanimous consent of the House.
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The Deputy Speaker
  • May/16/22 3:18:19 p.m.
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Following discussions among representatives of all the parties in the House, I understand that there is unanimous consent to observe a moment of silence in memory of the victims of the shooting in Buffalo, New York. I invite hon. members to rise. [A moment of silence observed]
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The Deputy Speaker
  • May/16/22 3:20:09 p.m.
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It being 3:19 p.m., pursuant to order made on Thursday, November 25, 2021, the House will now proceed to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the motion by the member for Wellington—Halton Hills relating to the business of supply. The question is on the motion. Shall I dispense? Some hon. members: No. [Chair read text of motion to House]
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The Deputy Speaker
  • May/16/22 3:23:52 p.m.
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I declare the motion carried.
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The Deputy Speaker
  • May/16/22 3:36:48 p.m.
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I am now ready to rule on the question of privilege raised on May 5, 2022, by the member for Simcoe—Grey concerning alleged ministerial interference in the Standing Committee on Citizenship and Immigration. When presenting his question of privilege, the member explained that he had received an email chain meant for members of the Liberal Party in connection with the preparation of instructions for the draft of the committee's report. While recognizing that this is normal party practice, he said that he was concerned to learn that the staff of the Minister of Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship was actively involved in drafting these directives. The member alleged that such interference in the work of the committee meant that ministerial staff were trying to steer the direction and manipulate the analyst's work. In his opinion, he believed that this is contempt of Parliament. For his part, the parliamentary secretary to the government House leader remarked that it is normal for the political staff of a parliamentary secretary who is a member of the committee to provide advice on a report in order to ensure an approach consistent with governmental policies. He argued that they are merely suggestions and not an attempt to constrain the members or dictate the work of the committee's analyst. The parliamentary secretary suggested that it is premature to raise this question of privilege since the committee has not presented a report to that effect. The crux of the problem raised by the member for Simcoe—Grey is that the minister's political staff participating in the discussions about the committee's report supposedly somehow deprives the House and, by extension, the committee of its right to govern its own proceedings, as mentioned by the member for Salaberry—Suroît. The Chair takes every allegation of interference in the proceedings of the House and its committees seriously, and it analyzes each case based on the facts presented to it. In this case, the situation described by the member does not seem highly unusual when a committee reviews a study, begins to plan the drafting of the report and discusses possible instructions. The members of a committee can consult stakeholders, interest groups and even their political colleagues before formulating their recommendations. It is not immediately obvious to the Chair how such discussions could constitute a breach of members' privileges, especially since there is no indication of confidential information's being shared or of threats or intimidation. A committee that deems it appropriate to submit certain problematic aspects to the Chair's attention can follow the normal process by presenting a report to the House. It is therefore impossible for me conclude that there has been a breach of the rights of the House or that a contempt has been committed. I therefore consider the matter closed. I thank the member for the intervention.
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The Deputy Speaker
  • May/16/22 3:41:25 p.m.
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All those opposed to the hon. member's moving the motion will please say nay. Hearing no dissenting voice, it is agreed. The House has heard the terms of the motion. All those opposed to the motion will please say nay.
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The Deputy Speaker
  • May/16/22 5:43:26 p.m.
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I declare the motion carried.
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