Hon. Marty Deacon: Honourable senators, my question is for the Government Representative in the Senate. Senator Gold, it has been over six years since the Phoenix pay system has been rolled out, yet it appears that too many public servants still exist in a state of uncertainty over their pay. Some are still not being paid at all, and some are being overpaid. Some were overpaid and paid back the difference and yet still have money being clawed back. Six years on, it is unacceptable that people still have to live through these uncertain times.

When will the replacement system be online and operative? In the meantime, what is the government doing to assist those still living in this state of uncertainty?