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  • Mar/4/22 10:00:00 a.m.

Senator Wells: Thank you, leader. Supplementary to that, given the proximity of our northern border with Russia and our lack of defences — and it is, colleagues and Senator Gold, a lack of defences in Canada’s North, including our territorial waters — what, if anything, is Canada doing to protect and secure our borders?

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  • Mar/4/22 10:00:00 a.m.

The Hon. the Speaker: Is leave granted, honourable senators?

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  • Mar/4/22 10:00:00 a.m.

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  • Mar/4/22 10:00:00 a.m.

Hon. Salma Ataullahjan: Honourable senators, I stand before you once again. My hometown of Peshawar bleeds, 56 people killed this afternoon, over 200 injured and all they were doing is going for prayers. I want to acknowledge the devastation that has been directed upon Peshawar again and again. I don’t know a single family, including my own, that has not been affected by the years of terrorism, for which there is never any acknowledgement. I want to stand and acknowledge all the lives lost in Peshawar today and in the years gone by. Thank you, Your Honour.

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  • Mar/4/22 10:00:00 a.m.

Hon. Raymonde Gagné (Legislative Deputy to the Government Representative in the Senate): Honourable senators, with leave of the Senate and notwithstanding rule 5-5(j), I give notice that, later this day, I will move:

That, when the Senate next adjourns after the adoption of this motion, it do stand adjourned until Tuesday, March 22, 2022, at 2 p.m.

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  • Mar/4/22 10:00:00 a.m.

Hon. Paula Simons: Honourable senators, my question is for the Government Representative. On Monday this week, the Teamsters Canada Rail Conference served notice that its members who work for CP Rail as engineers, conductors, trains persons and yards persons had voted in favour of strike action, with 96.7% voting in favour. The federal government, as I understand it, has appointed a mediator and talks are ongoing. However, given all the recent shocks to our rail system and supply chain, people in my province who depend on CP Rail are understandably nervous about the prospect of a freight rail strike.

In the circumstances, this is perhaps not an entirely fair question to ask, but what assurances can you offer us that the government will do what it can to make sure there is not another major disruption in Canadian rail shipping?

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  • Mar/4/22 10:00:00 a.m.

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  • Mar/4/22 10:00:00 a.m.

Senator Seidman: It is my impression and understanding that the amendment I have proposed coheres completely with an amendment that was made to Bill C-8 when the government committed $1.72 billion for tests in December. Would you agree?

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  • Mar/4/22 10:00:00 a.m.

Senator Seidman: I actually have a question for you Senator Gold, maybe a couple of questions, if you will take them.

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  • Mar/4/22 10:00:00 a.m.

Senator Gold: That’s a good question. I think we would all acknowledge that at the very beginning of the pandemic, with so little known then as compared to what we know now, that it would have been hard to predict in all respects what was needed. The government understands, and we expect and look forward to obtaining the lessons learned as we emerge.

What is clear, senator, is over the last number of months the government has been able to predict, and has responded responsibly to the escalating and exponentially increasing demand. That is why the government spent billions of dollars already. That is why the government exhausted its existing spending authorities, to make sure Canadians had access to as many tests as we could provide in January and February. The problem is the demand is still there and is likely to increase, and there are no spending authorities left to respond. There won’t be any until either Bill C-10 is passed or we arrive at a point where the supplementary estimates are passed which, as we all know, is many weeks from now. I hope that answers your question.

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  • Mar/4/22 10:00:00 a.m.

Senator McCallum: You partially answered the question I had in your response to Senator Ringuette, but I was wondering if there was anything else you wanted to add. Is there any way that the provincial, federal and territorial governments could have predicted the need for rapid tests in the past, at this late stage and in the future?

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  • Mar/4/22 10:00:00 a.m.

Hon. Patricia Bovey: Senator Gold, may I ask you one question?

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  • Mar/4/22 10:00:00 a.m.

Senator Gold: That is not only the nub of my argument, but you have expressed it far more economically and elegantly than I could have.

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  • Mar/4/22 10:00:00 a.m.

Hon. Mary Jane McCallum: Senator Gold, will you take another question?

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  • Mar/4/22 10:00:00 a.m.

Hon. Jim Quinn: Will the honourable senator take another question, please?

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  • Mar/4/22 10:00:00 a.m.

Hon. Senators: Agreed.

(The sitting of the Senate was suspended.)

(The sitting of the Senate was resumed.)

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  • Mar/4/22 10:00:00 a.m.

Hon. Scott Tannas: Senator Gold, I have a few quick questions. It might have come up at committee. You may know or you may not. Will the government be procuring these tests directly from manufacturers, or will there be intermediaries involved?

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  • Mar/4/22 10:00:00 a.m.

Hon. Stan Kutcher: Senator Gold, will you take yet another question?

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